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    One of the things I've been curious about, what do zoos do when they have something like this**:

    stocked with lizards, birds, frogs, etc and they get an infestation?

    ** pic 'borrowed' from another recent thread - let me know if this is not ok.
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    Ok I want to make sure I have this straight...

    Bayer Advanced Insect Killer:

    Spray the recommended amount for ~6 weeks
    Soak with 6x mixture once a month for ~3 months
    No watering until pots have dried?

    Alcohol:

    1 alcohol:1 409: 4 H20 spray mixture
    How often should I spray, daily? Or should I still swab?
    Flush pots?

    So I should do both? I'm confused when I need to water/not water or flush the pots...also, if I treat my entire collection do I still need to have them in separate liners? It would be dews (mainly semi tropicals, and some pygmies), a couple Neps and Sarrs, and some Pings. The pygmy dews and pings are in a separate tray. Also a terrestrial(?) Utric tray. I think my growlist is still updated.

    I apologize for asking so many questions. I'm a bit flustered never being in this position before...

    ---------- Post added at 08:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:23 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by RL7836 View Post
    One of the things I've been curious about, what do zoos do when they have something like this**:

    stocked with lizards, birds, frogs, etc and they get an infestation?

    ** pic 'borrowed' from another recent thread - let me know if this is not ok.
    My guess is they have a fairly strict Qt process. Somehow mine originated with a Pothos plant I had near my Cp setup. The mealybugs didn't pop up until recently though...

    ---------- Post added at 08:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:25 PM ----------

    Forgot to ask, since I'm using the tray method for everything but the Neps does that mean I will have to be top watering every pot now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpappy789 View Post
    Ok I want to make sure I have this straight...

    Bayer Advanced Insect Killer:

    Spray the recommended amount for ~6 weeks
    Soak with 6x mixture once a month for ~3 months
    No watering until pots have dried?
    If you don't have a root infestation, you probably don't need the drench.
    By drying out I mean just letting the trays dry out, not the media in the potsl. You never want roots of carnivorous plants to dry out. The Complete Insect Killer has a systemic insecticide (Imidacloprid) and a contact Pyrethroid insecticide. The Pyrethroid will kill any crawlers that might hatch from eggs. The adult mealybugs will get a dose of the systemic when they feed on the plants. Their waxy coat protects them from the contact insecticide. You could use some other contact insecticide like Neem Oil or Pyrethrim if you like.

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    Alcohol:

    1 alcohol:1 409: 4 H20 spray mixture
    How often should I spray, daily? Or should I still swab?
    Flush pots?
    Spray or swab once a week but only if an infestation is visible. Swabbing maybe better as it will more thoroughly break up any egg masses and squish insects. Spray if you have lots of plants.

    Flush the pots a few weeks after your final drench - just top water the pots a couple times and discard the runoff (no trays). Then back to trays as usual.

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    So I should do both? I'm confused when I need to water/not water or flush the pots...also, if I treat my entire collection do I still need to have them in separate liners? It would be dews (mainly semi tropicals, and some pygmies), a couple Neps and Sarrs, and some Pings. The pygmy dews and pings are in a separate tray. Also a terrestrial(?) Utric tray. I think my growlist is still updated.
    Just spray your other plants, don't bother with the drench unless you find signs of a root infestation. The contact insecticide should hit any crawlers that might have made it to your other plants. The systemic will be there too, should any adults appear or are present. I'd only spray every two weeks or once a month for a couple months. I would not use the drench on Pinguicula and Drosera. The spray with caution.

    Be sure to follow the advice from ICPS and trim and peel off as much of the dead stems on the crown. The less hiding places the more effective the treatments will be.

    I apologize for asking so many questions. I'm a bit flustered never being in this position before...
    No problem. Mealybugs are very nasty and difficult to control. You may not even be able to eradicate them. If I find the root infestations have returned I'm just going to destroy the plants. That may make some of you shudder but they are only S. 'Tarnok' and easy enough to replace since it is being propagated from tissue culture.

    Forgot to ask, since I'm using the tray method for everything but the Neps does that mean I will have to be top watering every pot now?
    Only when you drench the plants, once a month. Otherwise water as normal. Note: I have not used the 6x concentration on Nepenthes so I cannot tell you how they will react. The spray form appears to be harmless to Nepenthes.
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    Ok. Are my conditions too wet and that's why I should let the trays be drying out?

    So I ordered some of the Bayer and picked up some 70% isopropyl alcohol and 409. Going to start swabbing the infected plants and keep them isolated for the moment. I'll switch to a spray if I catch more plants with the buggers and then I guess I will being treating the entire collection.

    I guess once the Bayer arrives I'll start with that as well hopefully wont need to drench. I did notice some of them on top of the media in my N. ventricosa pot but I've yet to see any within roots of any of the currently infected plants so I'm hoping that's a good sign. I'll be transplanting those ones.
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    Found some no my capensis which is in the middle of the collection...yay...

    Guess I'll be treating everything with the Bayer just in case.
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