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    Doing it wrong until I do it right. xvart's Avatar
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    Chatbox Code of Conduct Reminder

    Over the past couple of months there have been several reports of questionable content being posted in the chatbox. For isolated incidents individual members were contacted about the infractions; however, the behavior was unfortunately much more persistent and pervasive and called for a stronger course of action.

    The chatbox is a much more fluid discussion venue than the standard discussion board topics generated here and is therefore much more difficult to consistently monitor by the moderating team (and luckily up until recently was unnecessary for the most part).

    Several members have been contacted and have lost chatbox privileges for a temporary amount of time. The duration of the restrictions varied by violation severity and number of violations during the reviewed period of time.

    The forum rules apply to the chatbox (as is stated in the typing area of the chatbox prior to any text being entered). Rules that were notorious in the review included but were not limited to:
    1. Cursing, swearing, and vulgar language;
    2. Bypassing cursing, swearing, or vulgarity by substituting ASCII characters (i.e. $, @, etc. for similar looking letters);
    3. References to illegal drugs;
    4. Illegal file sharing;
    5. Vulgar and inappropriate images;
    6. Conversations of a sexual nature;
    7. Discussion of outside vendors (including vague references like "you know the one in [REDACTED] location) or abbreviations; and,
    8. Links to websites promoting or engaging in the previously mentioned topics.


    It should also be noted that during this review period only individuals who initiated a particular conversation (i.e. illegal drug use) were given an infraction; however, in the future, all individuals who participate in the discussion may be held responsible for the relevant rule violation. The best course of action if in inappropriate topic surfaces is to ignore it or encourage the individual to cease.

    The chatbox is a great benefit to Terraforums and we value the continuous fluid conversation that can occur at a moment's notice; but we need to ensure that the conversation follows the Terraforums rules such that the conversation is appropriate for all members and does not alienate any individual from participating.

    As I believe there is potentially some value to discussion surrounding this issue this topic will be left open for discussion but shall not be used as a venue to air grievances on behalf of members who have had chatbox restrictions imposed on them. Since we protect the privacy of members by not discussing infractions and actions taken against members by the moderating team it would be a one sided conversation with our inability to publicly respond. As always, questions and concerns about forum privileges should be taken to pm.

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    Last edited by xvart; 03-20-2012 at 10:01 PM.
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    I just corrected some inaccurate wording in bullet four above removing "torrenting" and leaving "illegal file sharing".

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    Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly to you mean by "illegal file sharing"?

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    Okay, I am going to initiate some debate.

    I use Terraforums daily. I have used it very regularly for a couple years now. I have made multiple purchases from flytrapshop.com and enjoyed them thoroughly. I have tried my best to maintain my "thank you membership", which I also enjoy much! I most of all am thankful for and continue to inhabit this site ultimately because of the potentially outstanding information and insight that can be found here regarding the cultivation, ethics, and biology of carnivorous plants.

    I also understand that flytrapshop.com must do what it can to maintain a reasonable amount of business so that Andy can keep his business and this great treasure of a forum running well. The plants that flytrapshop sells are mostly very common species and to be honest is very limited in comparison to many other nurseries. That is offset by the fact that the prices are definitely quite competitive and the specimens I have seen are almost always robust and well packaged.

    In many ways if one is to buy a common carnivore, flytrapshop is definitely the place to do it. Not to mention that the calender is something that is unique to flytrapshop.

    In regards to infraction number 7:

    I, Dexenthes introduces the following resolution to the Administration and Moderators of terraforums.com:

    Whereas: Terraforums.com is one of the most used and popular of all online venues to discuss carnivorous plants and is constantly frequented by growers of all skill levels and manner of experience.

    Whereas: The sanction against discussion of outside vendors exists to stimulate business for the sole patron company and sponsor of this forum, flytrapshop.com.

    Whereas:
    flytrapshop carries almost exclusively relatively common, albeit robust and well priced carnivorous plants.

    Whereas: Some of the plants that flytrapshop does carry are routinely given away by other generous forum members in giveaways or trades.

    Whereas: This somewhat frequent free and generous spreading of common species such as P. moctezumae, D. capensis, and Dionaea muscipula could be considered competition for flytrapshop.

    Whereas: Many of the members of this forum actively search for, trade, and grow a huge variety of much rarer and more expensive plants than flytrapshop carries.

    Whereas: A large majority of the vendors that would or are theoretically discussed by many of the forum members specialize in or offer a vast array of plants that flytrapshop does not carry such as rare Nepenthes, Heliamphora, Utricularia, and Drosera.

    Whereas:
    Some other vendors are known by more experienced members to sell low-quality plants or have uncompetitive prices.

    Whereas: Beginner growers could potentially benefit from knowledge regarding which nurseries are trustworthy or competitive.

    Whereas: This knowledge and exchange of information could potentially increase competition and therefore lower prices and raise accountability in a market of plants that flytrapshop does not engage in.

    Whereas:
    Even in the specific market that flytrapshop does engage in, flytrapshop is competitive and has a great reputation.

    Whereas: Many active members of this forum have shown that they will willingly support flytrapshop even if they are not interested in or already have the plants that flytrapshop offers.

    Therefore: The sanctions against the open and free discussion of all carnivorous plant vendors should be lifted.

    /2cents

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    Last edited by Dexenthes; 03-21-2012 at 11:34 AM.
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    The stance on vendors is not to discuss vendors within the US right? What about vendors who are located in other countries but ship internationally?
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    I have to say that I'm not a big fan of the no vendor names either. It's irritating to me that if somebody asks me "hey, where did you get that plant?" that I can't tell them, even in chat!
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    Refernces to Legal drugs are a no no too that should be in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rball View Post
    Refernces to Legal drugs are a no no too that should be in there
    Maybe taking it a bit too far Need to be more specific in these type of rules/regulations. Common medicinal drugs are still drugs; would you feel the need to ban someone for saying they just took medicine X for a headache? It is after all a 'Legal drug'.

    Just my 2 cents.
    Last edited by zlookup; 03-21-2012 at 05:05 AM. Reason: spelling
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