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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexenthes View Post
    Part of it is in the eye of the beholder, but IMO that doesn't justify certain prices...

    I truly am just basing it off of how fast you can divide and spread the plant. The more common something is, the cheaper it will be. High demand, low supply = large prices, high supply, low demand = low prices. It's just economics.

    There are plenty of really cool Nepenthes that I would love to have such as jamban or jacquelineae (again), but until I can find them in the 20 dollar range, I wont even consider buying them. Because I KNOW that they are fast growing plants and can be cut up or vined relatively quickly. Same thing with D. regia, it's an amazing plant, and it goes for large sums of money. However, I never actually bought one because I KNOW that people are good at propagating it easily, so why would I pay that much for something that somebody could just take a root cutting of in no time?

    The rarer and harder the plant is to grow the higher the price will (and should) be, IMO. If the price isn't low? Don't worry I'll just wait it out another couple years when people are selling melody sharks and wacky traps for barely more than a regular VFT. Cup-traps comes to mind...

    Now seed-grown edwardsiana... I suppose if I thought people would be breeding these like crazy, I wouldn't care to spend more than 50 bucks. But that just doesn't seem realistic.
    I agree with you and see both sides of this conversation. If you are a carnivorous plant hobbyist, collector, or nursery owner etc., you are probably interested in propagating or creating hybrids that show characteristics people will like and pay more for as you state in the beginning. There will always be rare neat plants and they will become cheaper overtime as more make it into cultivation. See Sarracenia 'Dixie Lace'- a bunch of people have them but when first registered as a cultivar I bet they had a hotter price tag. Some collectors want the rarest first. I've probably spent too much on a few plants here and there but I'm like you I like to wait on the price to drop, at least a little. Look at S. 'Adriane Slack'. I've seen it bring $350 on ebay. It is still somewhat rare in collections. In my opinion trading with folks you trust is the way to go.

    If a plant is rare and expensive, a collector wants it and buys it, the plant owner gets to then buy more supplies to continue the hobby of producing new rare plant varieties or cultivars. I see nothing wrong with that.
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    For me, it's definitely not about acquiring what's rare, and being the first to have it. It's about acquiring what I want, and if it happens to be expensive.. *shrug* I'll most likely buy it.

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    Looks like Déjà vu!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carnivorous-...#ht_526wt_1398

    Same seller!

    And another:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carnivorous-...#ht_500wt_1413

    Different seller...

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    People can and do spend crazy money on eBay especially if they get into bidding wars at the end of the auction. I saw a Norwegian black metal record go for over $1000. It was one I passed over multiple times years ago when we had a dedicated metal record shop here and it was an import priced at $20... dang!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexenthes View Post
    I don't know guys... Still I would never pay that much for a Dionaea, why? Because they are all the same species. It just so happens that that species is very easily reproduced and not generally hard to grow.

    That's why 100 dollars for a flytrap to most people is insane. Even if I thought wacky traps should exist, I would never pay more than 20 bucks for it because there are growers dividing rhizomes right now as I type this.

    Rare Nepenthes and Heliamphora? It just takes a long time to make more of those. Which is why I would pay over 100 dollars for one. They're not easy to recreate which is why not everyone has one.
    They can be dividing rhizomes and driving down prices with tc, but that will not happen all the time for all cultivars. And IDK if they are the same species because they have different genes to some extent that give them a different look. Obviously nep people feel the same because they want multiple seedgrown plants when they are all the same species.

    AND.. Once you get it in tc a nep and heli/ceph is easy to make thousands of. Trust me. As soon as someone gets some eddie seeds into the hands of a tc'er they will make it drop in price soo much if they are as inexperienced in business as the people cloning dionaea in the hundreds for low prices. Neps are only so "rare" because places that sell them and tc them only sell males and partake in other smart, although somewhat hateful business practices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomsday View Post
    They can be dividing rhizomes and driving down prices with tc, but that will not happen all the time for all cultivars. And IDK if they are the same species because they have different genes to some extent that give them a different look. Obviously nep people feel the same because they want multiple seedgrown plants when they are all the same species.

    AND.. Once you get it in tc a nep and heli/ceph is easy to make thousands of. Trust me. As soon as someone gets some eddie seeds into the hands of a tc'er they will make it drop in price soo much if they are as inexperienced in business as the people cloning dionaea in the hundreds for low prices. Neps are only so "rare" because places that sell them and tc them only sell males and partake in other smart, although somewhat hateful business practices.
    Neps do not multiply that fast in TC, Doom, not all of them anyway, and Cephs do terrible in TC from everything I've heard. Once you try them, then you can tell us if they are still easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exo View Post
    Neps do not multiply that fast in TC, Doom, not all of them anyway, and Cephs do terrible in TC from everything I've heard. Once you try them, then you can tell us if they are still easy.
    As soon as i can get my hands on some seed I will. I will be doing it this summer with cephs and helis and neps as well with whatever seed I can get.. Starting in early june because I am super busy till then. Not enough time to set up for tc and such.

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    Doom, Eddie has been in TC for years. Many neps are bad in TC and grow slow which is why they still cost so much.

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