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Thread: Ceph Eden Black X self on E-bay.

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    Ceph Eden Black X self on E-bay.

    Might be something to watch, figure it will go for a ton. I know its not "that hard" to get Eden Black X open seeds now so maybe its real.

    Its odd that there is not a "parent" pitcher photo, since this is a tissue culture from a seed grown plant I would think there would be an older plant around somewhere with some color. After all the real money is in the color, and even a tiny pitcher with dark coloring would drive the bids so much higher.

    There are even two links to photos of other cultures but not this one.

    Selling off the duds maybe?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/CEPHALOTUS-E...item27d9d18608

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    For myself, i would never trust ebay. I buy only from vendors with good reputation. If you want a eden black, ask stephen morley. He is the creator of eden black.

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    the ebay post is legit. the poster is bigbella, good guy, all around straight shooter in my book. it can also be reasoned that the coloration is influenced by lighting issues or that genetics is a mixed bag. maybe he will post a comment here.
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    Yep, bigbella is a trustable grower. And like amphirion said, a very nice person.
    I didnt know it was from him.
    My bad.

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    It is one of five clones from seed, obtained from the UK; and the provenance of the seed can be traced. I don't own the parent plant(s).

    Since seed is produced sexually, some variability has been introduced into the mix; so whether the "Eden Black x Self" will breed true, will take time. Even the cultivar itself requires plenty of light. I know a few who cultivate it.

    I hope to have some clones available for the 2014 NASC Auction; but the current auctions will serve to cover some increased lab overhead and other interesting projects . . .
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    By the way, really nice plant BigBella.

    Congratulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maiden View Post
    For myself, i would never trust ebay. I buy only from vendors with good reputation. If you want a eden black, ask stephen morley. He is the creator of eden black.
    There are a lot of good listers on E-bay, and with some digger you can usually find them tied to a CP forum. As this one turned out to be.

    You just need to research them and see, I know there are some good people in the UK selling seeds that ship to the US, and more people from TF list auctions than would admit it.

    The real problem with Ceph variations is that without a paper trail it could be a typical and you might never know depending on the variation. I have a well grown in Emu and Big Boy that if I removed the labels I would never be able to tell them part.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBella View Post
    It is one of five clones from seed, obtained from the UK; and the provenance of the seed can be traced. I don't own the parent plant(s).

    Since seed is produced sexually, some variability has been introduced into the mix; so whether the "Eden Black x Self" will breed true, will take time. Even the cultivar itself requires plenty of light. I know a few who cultivate it.

    I hope to have some clones available for the 2014 NASC Auction; but the current auctions will serve to cover some increased lab overhead and other interesting projects . . .
    Thanks for the input, right now I have 2 Hummer's leaf pulls taken on the same day from the same plant that are really close in size growing right next to each other and one is nice and red the other is all green...Ceph coloration is something I just don't get yet.

    Would love to see any new/old variations at the auction. Good luck with the auction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSS View Post
    The real problem with Ceph variations is that without a paper trail it could be a typical and you might never know depending on the variation. I have a well grown in Emu and Big Boy that if I removed the labels I would never be able to tell them part.

    Thanks for the input, right now I have 2 Hummer's leaf pulls taken on the same day from the same plant that are really close in size growing right next to each other and one is nice and red the other is all green...Ceph coloration is something I just don't get yet.

    Would love to see any new/old variations at the auction.
    Since this was an initial launch of the "selfed" clones, it is still a bit too early to see a great deal of variation, since they've only been de-flasked since August.

    As an aside, that "Emu Point" clone also originally came from me; was given to the late Dennis Hastings a few years ago; and the only reason that it was ever named at all, was that it was one of the only Cephalotus available, at least within the US, that had been site-specific. It had never been named a "giant" or anything else until much later, and certainly not by me . . .
    Last edited by BigBella; 10-30-2013 at 11:43 AM.
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