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  • bluemax - D. montana var. tomentosa

    13 59.09%
  • Maiden - H. minor var minor

    9 40.91%
  • Wire Man - N. lavicola

    3 13.64%
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    12 54.55%
  • Peatmoss - D. villosa var. latifolia

    3 13.64%
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    5 22.73%
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Thread: Plant of the Month December 2013

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    really like your third pic down Mass

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    Heliamphora minor var minor


    Heliamphora minor var minor auyan par dals009, sur Flickr
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    Are the Drosera villosa naturally curly? That's a really interesting shape is they are. I can almost imagine them "watching over" the rosette.

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    Mass and Maiden - spectacular plants! I am honored to be in such company.
    - Mark

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    Mass, your entry is misidentified. While this has nothing to do with the photographic merits of the pics, I disagree with the practice of posting pics of mislabeled plants (or sharing mislabeled plants). I alerted you that your plant was misidentified via PM earlier this year. While I am far from an expert with plant ID, this is not a tough one. Fernando explains the difference:
    the leaves are different in that D.villosa has petioles longer than the lamina while D.ascendens has petioles usually much shorter than the lamina
    The differences are obvious - here's the real D. villosa in situ and in cultivation.
    All the best,
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    Hello everyone,

    Warren asked me to help with the IDs. First I wanted to congratulate Mark for the beautiful D.tomentosa var.tomentosa! Is this large hairy specimen from the Chapada Diamantina by any chance?

    Mass, although your plants are beautiful, I am sorry to say it is not D.villosa. The true D.villosa is indeed endemic to the Serra do Ibitipoca and the nearby Serra Negra, so your plant must've gotten switched somewhere. The pics that Ron posted do show what this amazing species looks like.

    The beautiful specimens you show us here appear to be what is currently most commonly known as D.ascendens. I would even go as far as saying that it looks like a form from S Brazil, from the region of Itararé or Sengés. Maybe even the Pico da Bandeira/ Serra do Caparaó form (although this one in cultivation seems to be much bigger than in the wild, though I suspect someone may have accidentally swapped seeds).

    Now the bad news is that this story gets even more complicated. Together with some colleagues, I am about to publish a review of the D.villosa complex. It should be out before the end of the year hopefully, or in January 2014. This complex actually contains 6 species: D.villosa, D.graomogolensis, D.ascendens, two new species, and one taxon that we are bringing up from the dead.

    I can't give details yet, but we've rediscovered the true D.ascendens (after 200 years!) and it's actually something quite different than what I'd been thinking for the past 20 years.

    So what you are growing will soon change name, but feel free to call it D.ascendens for now.


    Best Wishes,
    Fernando


    P.S. Congrats also on the healthy D.spiralis!

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    I don't think any of us is surprised to find that the taxonomy of South American Drosera is complex and unsettled but it is nice to hear directly from Fernando on the state of the subject. I hope to get a look at the new article when it become available.

    Thanks for your kind words, Fernando. I'm afraid that I don't have any site information on the D. tomentosa as it was grown from seed that had none. I bought this from Best CP. The rosette of the plant is ~2 inches across so it may look bigger in the photo than it is.

    Mass: Whatever species it turns out to be called - your plant is awesome.
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    Fernando,
    Thanks for dropping by & sharing some excellent information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fernando Rivadavia View Post
    I can't give details yet, but we've rediscovered the true D.ascendens (after 200 years!) and it's actually something quite different than what I'd been thinking for the past 20 years.
    Sounds like there is some very interesting stuff in the publishing pipeline - I'm looking forward to reading about the discovery & the realignment of the group.
    All the best,
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