And I didn't know neps could sex change either. Then there was a thread here about someone asking why their nep was a female all of a sudden.
It was Whimgrinder's actually.
Next on Springer: "My Nepenthes is a TRANNY!"
However, we cannot state that this is a selfing because I have no proof that these two plants are the same clone. I'm not even sure they are both BE clones - though I strongly suspect they both are. But BE vogelii are a swarm of many individuals, so the odds are these two plants are distinct, but related.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrrSAc-vjG4. Also, the very well-pieced-together process of how trees defend from fungal attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...decay_in_trees
One of the most important things that I have learned over the years is to understand the cultural reasons why pests and diseases succeed. Often, problems can be traced to factors like nutrition, pH, soil aeration, and other factors which limit the ability of the plant to fight problems. The better I can grasp why I'm getting problems, the fewer pesticides I use. It's just often complicated to get it right, and there's a lot of room for error and making choices which don't get to the root of the problem.
I may have an instance of a Nepenthes that has selfed; the one odd-pod that formed on my (inermis x singalana) x mira appears to have successfully developing seeds (as one side of the pod is missing and seeds are visible as they grow) and it was the only thing with pollen being produced at the time, so we might get a glimpse of the results...
And yes, plants can fall as quickly to inbreeding as animals can, it's just that most lines we work with are heavily heterozygous so it takes a lot to concentrate bad genes to the same extent we see in many animals, or like in the case of Aldrovanda homozygosity is so nearly complete and devoid of aberrant genes that selfing vs. outcrossing has the same result...
Also concerning the discussion of cultivars and patents: for the most part, cultivar designation is based on appearance, with some background in parentage/genome. Most cultivar descriptions say that vegetative propagation is necessary for production usually because offspring almost never look exactly the same as the cultivar parent. If in the off chance though an offspring from, say, selfing does show the same appearance, or like in the case of 'Hurricane Creek White' the proper traits, it can be considered the same cultivar. I think Dionaea might be a little different because there are a hundred cultivars that basically look the same, but....
Everything has a reason, whether big or small. Never underestimate the power of what is or is not.
There is far more to everything than meets the eye.