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    Sunshine Mix #4?

    I went to my local indoor garden shop. You know, the kind where they help you grow "tomatoes" indoors. I told their plant person I'm growing carnivorous plants and he directed me to their Sunshine Mix #4. It says it only contains peat, perlite, and a pH adjuster (to 6.5). Has anyone tried this with their CP's? Do I need to run screaming and pull my Sarracenias from their pots that I transplanted them into? Sorry I'm a complete novice.

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    Also, I called my municipal water facility, and the TDS in my town is on average 84ppm, fluctuating between 74 and 92. I've found conflicting information on whether this is suitable for CP's. Thoughts?

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    There are several versions of Sunshine mix #4 and some have added fertilizer ingredients, so you need to identify specifically which version you've purchased.
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    Last edited by PlantFanatic; 01-14-2016 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlantFanatic View Post
    And from the manufacturers web site is this:

    Ingredients:
    Canadian Sphagnum peat moss, perlite, dolomite lime, low phosphorus fertilizer, proprietary blend of endomycorrhizae, and wetting agent

    And so, it has a fertilizer added, and that probably makes it inappropriate for most CPs, and that includes Sarracenia. However, what they don't tell you is how much fertilizer they've added, and that would be the key, since many growers have proven that Sarracenia can tolerate low levels of certain fertilizers and may in fact reap some benefit. But this Sunshine Mix is a bit of an unknown. Is there risk you might damage your plants by using it? Yes. Do you know how great the risk is, and is there an easy way to assess the risk? Not really, no.

    Here's what I think:
    If you can afford to regard your Sarracenia plants as "disposable", then you may want to leave them in this mix and see what happens. If you're not comfortable doing that, then remove them and repot them into something you know is safe. Best option is to buy some Peat and some sand or Perlite and make a blend yourself. That's what most of us do.

    Perhaps other folks here have used Sunshine #4 and can comment on its suitability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlantFanatic View Post
    Also, I called my municipal water facility, and the TDS in my town is on average 84ppm, fluctuating between 74 and 92. I've found conflicting information on whether this is suitable for CP's. Thoughts?

    Municipal water rated at under 100ppm TDS is generally safe for use with most CP types. However, there is risk of accumulating damaging levels of dissolved solids if you continue to add more water to a non-draining environment as it is used up/evaporates. In other words, if you keep your plants in dishes or pools of standing water, then you really ought to dump the water out periodically and flush the plant with clean water and then return it to its dish/pool with fresh water added. Its the accumulation of salts from the water supply as you add water to a closed system that becomes problematic, and if you start with 90ppm water, its easy to increase that figure to a point where it becomes toxic. Does that make sense?

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    I don't care what the pH or fertilizer situation is, I'm not using a mix containing lime for my CP's.
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    http://www.sungro.com/images/product...CE%20front.jpg

    I think you were looking at that kind, which isn't the same as the kind I bought. As for watering, I'll get a TDS meter and keep an eye on the water I use as well as the water in the trays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubRosa View Post
    I don't care what the pH or fertilizer situation is, I'm not using a mix containing lime for my CP's.
    There is that too, yes.

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