Perhaps times have changed, but in the late 70's I personally visited this nursery. I was offered .50 a head by the owner to collect Sarracenia seed pods, and the owner also tried to offer inducements of rare material in trade if I did this. Although Sarracenia were not at that time were not protected (and still aren't), I can assure you that habitat impact was as real then as it is now, and this person was well aware of the fact. It just didn't matter. Whether it was "legal" does not enter into the issue as far as I am concerned! It was not ethical then or now, and the owner knew this. His comments of how "all cultivated plants were originally field collected" was/is pure BS. There is a vast difference between sensitive INITIAL collection, and the continuing wholesale rape of habitat. Perhaps the owner felt the condemnation of the CP community and has altered his business strategies, but I for one doubt very much that their profit margin would allow them to stay in business for so long if this were the case. In any event, this practice whether current or former, has ensured that I will NEVER do business with the likes of them. Is it really worth it, to save a few measley bucks? BAH! Do as you will, but please spare me the continuing pain of this misplaced defense. What we have done in the past makes us what we are now, and consequence of past actions does come home eventually.