I went to a herp expo yesterday and came upon display of lush, green leaves. A gentleman named Mike had some very nice CP's for sale. I told him about the N. ventricosa that I had ordered from PFT and what a nice specimen that I had received. Turns out that the plants he was selling were from PFT. I made a dash to the ATM and soon was the proud owner of a S. Judith Hindle, a N. gracillis, and a N. rafflesiana. To Phil and Jeff, do you guys know how to grow great plants or what The N.rafflesiana even had two plants in it! Excellent work guys. And thanks to Mike for his time and information.