>Ok eklaab you stated your complaint
Complaint? I haven't stated any complaints. I've just joined in this discussion which was already in progress. I'm assuming you can rebutt or support any of the arguments here. This is a discussion group after all, isn't it? If you want to not participate any further because you are unable to refute some of the excellent points made here, that is fine, too.
Wow, I never knew all this about a garden website! 8-0
I think we had talk too much on garden web spamming
better go on CP topics sure that would most of us more happy.
my main way is live and let live so let GW live as long as they have some users there at the end you would see all of them over here.
I think the point of contention here for people is that you dont SEEM to be acknowladging the facts that have been given to you.
I personally have begun to look at this whole thread as a blight here, a dark smear on an otherwise pristine forum. To my knowledge, this is perhaps the most absolutely negative discussion that has ever happened here, it's a very emotionally charged topic, and not something everyone cares to read. (and I have no problem admitting that I have been a part of this)
But basically, this is a happy, respectful place. *I don't think we should lock this thread because I think it serves a useful purpose, and knowing you Ron, I know that you wont result to flaming, and knowing our membership, I know it won't come to that either. *But I would like to take a moment to remind everyone of one of the cardinal rules here.
(I hope everyone realizes that I am not trying to be mean or start a fight here, this is quite simply a frank discussion)
That being said:
Ron, people have been kind enough to answer your questions with their views on the matter, but I have seen very little reciprocation from you. *This is not in your nature as I have witnessed, I have seen you answer even the simplest most annoying questions about various plants with calm and candor before. *
Why not answer our views here?
We have noticed that you tend to ignore (for the most part) the larger pertinant points of the discussion, such as spikes immature behavior, and focus on smaller issues, such as Tamlins post being 'suspicious'. Strange, I never remember anyone thinking my novellas at GW were suspicious, and SPAM to give away seed seems like one of the most unlikely schemes in history...
regardless, It is a trend on gardenweb not only to ban people using those dangerous ********** words, but anyone who wants to practice a basic tennant of humanity, helping another. *in that sense, gardenweb seems to be run by people out of touch with humanity. *(That is a side point however)
My point, fish or cut bait. *If your trolling to keep for a fight, then I am very dissapointed, and you are not the person I held in high esteem when I first joined the online cp community. *(I hope I am wrong)
ALso, if you are afraid that if you respond in the positive about spike being chump, I understand, he would probably ban you for writing anything agreeable here. *so feel free to contact me in private.
EDIT NOTES: After re-reading I changed a few words that made this post seem less combative. I don't want people to think anyone here is trying to pick a fight. If my post seems blunt, it probably is, but please do not infer rudeness, trolling, or anything else.
(Edited by RamPuppy at 5:58 pm on April 18, 2002)
anyone read any good books lately?
Mmm. This thread seems to be turning very un-********** like, with a few harsh words flying about.
Maybe we should call it a day eh? Do either Phil or Jaie fancy locking this topic?
Just a thought.
I have added a note at the front of the topic asking those who don't want to be involved here to shy away from this topic.
I also believe people need to remember that everyone here is a nice person. I know Ron, and as long as things haven't changed, I think he's a nice guy. Blunt statements and questions are not always meant to be rude, but can be taken that way, as the written language does not contain inflections. Please attempt to read this with a grain of salt, and understand that for some of us this is an discussion that needs to happen.
That being said, if members of our community feel that this discussion is detracting from our community (as quite a few of us do) then something should be done about it. I for one, while feeling the tone is darker than we are used to, feel that it is a constructive exchange, at least a little bit, which is more than we have had on this issue before. So I think as long as the tree bears good fruit, regardless of how ugly it is, then it should stay open.
Also remember that the moderators here have some pretty hefty tools, <insert> Phenominal Cosmic Powers <insert> just because we rarely use them doesn't mean we don't have them. Faith friends, faith! [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
Spike: Rude to Phil & Jeff regarding advertising and forum rules.
Spike: Filter in GW for links to PFT.com (yes it happened to me)
Spike: Banning random people who mention PFT.
PFT: Upset. Some members may have purposefully evaded the filter.
Spike: Deleted posts to help himself feel like he was in control of his little world.
A few members of GW packed their bags and went on to different places.
Moderator Schmoderator Fluorescent fluorite, England
I've seen your posts on the gardenweb before. I had a beef with Spike looong before this forum ever existed...he was rude and not very helpful in regards to a question I had about posting pics. And all the other stuff aside, to compare ANYONE to a terrorist in regards to the monumental tragedy of 9-11 in NY, D.C. and Pennsylvania over a plant discussion forum is cruel and MEAN. That is an event you should bow your head in sorrow over...not to use to hurl insults. That comment should NEVER have been made in ANY situation. Its disrespectful to the people who suffered such terrible losses.
SO...what I'd like to know is....what kind of CPs do you grow? How long have you been growing them? You seem very experienced. Do you specialize or have a preference to a particular genus?
This forum is about CPs and information on growing them and also about making friends in a community of people all over the world who share a common interest. There are even forums for other types of plants as well. And its open to personal things like ...Fatboy is expecting a new baby...Pyro got accepted into a PhD. program...Ram drives a Dodge Ram pick-up (if i remember correctly)...John has a new baby...Cindy has eaten durians...Jeff has a hedgehog...we all share alot of things!
I have learned a lot from the nice people here and I hope you can share your knowledge and experiences here as well.
Welcome to the forums!
bah! You all are being so reasonable it makes me look bad! [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
I guess we should move on.
I'll lock the topic at noon. (Barring any reasonable requests not to.)