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    Hi all. I just recently got back into the cp thing and they were doing fantastic in san diego under artifical light. I even got to go and transplant them with a 50/50 perlite peat moss combo. my sundew actually outgrew its 2 litre bottle. Basically my problem is this...I moved from the w coast to virginia and my wife put them in a 20 gal terrarium. After a miserable couple weeks (I found out that there was no drainage and perlite) I put them back into larger containers. I have lost the huge sundew and at least one of my vft that once sported the largest traps I had seen. What I am wondering is if anyone can suggest some sort of solution. I saw on one of the other posts that they removed the clear caps off the cp's right away. I have them all under a moderate artifical light. They seem to be sustaining, but nothing like they were. Can I put them on a sunny window sill that gets some full sun? I am also looking for someone to give me some suggestions on getting a terrarium started, drainage and all. I read so many different setup procedures my head is spinning. I am very frustrated also because I cannot seem to get any pitcher plants to grow, they seem to fizzle about a month after I get them. The get the recommended amount of water, about once every three to five days. Anyone that can give me some help would save me a ton of frustration. Can anyone give me soil recommendations on these guys? thanks in advance, Bob

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    Bob,
    Couple of things....We need to know exactly what species you have. Also, did you check out this page?
    PFT care sheets

    Since you are now in Virginia, your VFT's can go outside. You actually have PRIME realestate for a bog garden! They should be placed in a tray of about 1 inch of purified or rain water (tap water, depending on mineral content, can kill them). You soil (50/50 pete perlite) is fine, that's what I use. They do like a good deal of sun, but if you bought them from a nursery, introduce them to the sun slowly (think getting a tan without burning...really the same thing. an hour the first day, 2 the next, etc). After they're accustomed to the direct sun, you'll get some really nice red coloration

    for the pitcher plants, I assume you mean sarracenia (north american pitcher plants), not Nepenthes (tropical pitcher plants), but I won't make any recomendations until I'm sure which genus you have. I will also reserve my sundew recomnedations until I know which species you have.
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    Bob,

    I can suggest several things. First, a terrarium is easiest, in my opinion, with plants still in their containers. In other words, get all the soil out of the tank, and put the containers in saucers of water at the bottom. Next, go buy a cheap temperature/humidity guage to make sure you're not veering too far off of what the plants like. Make sure your terrarium has good air circulation, and it's best if it gets cool at night. VFTs and saracenias don't like stagnant, swampy conditions. Oh, and make sure you're using distilled or rain water. I'm sure some other, more knowledgable people will chime in here.

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    Hey, schloaty beat me to it! But he's right; outside is best!

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    i'd love to help!! i'd love to help you get a terr started too.


    " (I found out that there was no drainage and perlite)" what's wrong with perlite? its auctually GOOD for drainage.

    what kind of sundew was it? how did you grow it? (temps, soil, water, ect) ditto for the flytrap.

    "I saw on one of the other posts that they removed the clear caps off the cp's right away" whats a clear cap? you mean those little "domes" they remove those because they really aren't needed. especially by the VFT.

    what did they look like when they died? brown or black? any little bugs ect? anything out of the ordinary?


    as for the pitcher plants, what do they look like when they "fizzle" out? what are you growing them in? you should really let them sit in something, or grow them in undrained containers with a hole cut in it or drilled in it to maintain water level.


    as for the terr, why dont you wait a little bit? you mention drainage, forget about filling it in with dirt, making a false bottom ect. its so much easier and imo "cleaner" if you just put down a couple of inches of water, some titanium heaters, eggcrate over that, and then sit the pots on it.




    what are you watering with? call me crazy but it might be something in your water. give us a detailed description of how you take care of them.

    i hope they live for you!!

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    looks like you BOTH beat me!!!


    are you sure they need to get cool at night? i'm growing tropicals and i've been keeping it at 80 degrees constantly (the orchids LOVE it!!&#33[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

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    Basically, the pitcher plant (not sure of the name, looks like the run of the mill hooded version from Home Depot) were all in the original packing material. the domes are those clear plastic "cups" over the plants when you buy them. When they died, they were all black which when I think about it, sounds like too much water. Several traps died right after feeding a fly to them. There was no perlite in the terrarium when I removed them, and that was what I think pushed them over the edge, too wet and compact. They seem to be sustaining now, especially the sundews. That plant is not the one that has the redish tint to its leaves, plain old green all around, grows like a tree. What temperature and humidity are best for these guys? I have a humidity guage and it is usually around 70%, the temperature is about 70 as well. But again, I think because the soil was sooo packed, that had something to do with it. In CA I had them under full artifical light, high humidity and they loved it...Can I put these guys in full sun outside?? I appreciate all the responses so quickly. I'll get these guys outside and start using rain water. I think that may be part of the problem. Should the be capped of on the tops, or open? How often should the be watered? Can I leave them out overnight? it is about 60 at night here.

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