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Thread: CP Habitat destruction: Disinterested Officials

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    Not a bad idea unknownclown but the cows didn't do anything wrong. It always comes down to people...

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    Yeah I know that the cows are just being cows but you know.... they are going to end up on the dinner table anyway why prolong it?
    Oh and what cow? I thought that was a deer! [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    what a sad story... I have a few thoughts however...

    While, I am no fan of 'over-rabid environmentalism for the sake of being environmental'

    (example - My sister and bro-in-law used to work at Johnston Atol in the South Pacific, where they worked at responsibly destroying the worlds stock pile of chemical weapons. (they just finished with Hitlers Sarin stockpile in the mid 90's if you can believe that.) ANy how, the facility is so state of the art and environmentally friendly, that NOTHING leaks out into the surrounding reefs and nearby game preserve, it is a very highly regulated, and highly maintained site... yet... every day they had a greepeace ship circling the island taking water samples (and finding nothing) and had to deal with them harrassing people that lived on the island by pulling on the horn and such... in the long run, I am sure the ship did more damage than the plant.

    Any how... that being said... Green Peace is a rabid organization, and the last thing the forestry service would want is an organization like that hounding it.

    hmmm... twisted thoughts...

    ****

    I am all for a petition, I think this is a valuable sight that MUST be protected! Who wants to organize it? we are now taking volunteers.

    Finally, I love the idea of having a bbq. gotta tell a story now.

    I used to date a girl who's daddy was a platoon commander out at Ft. Hood. Ranchers are allowed to run their cattle on Ft. Hood as long as they sign forms stating they know if they do not remove them when they are notified that live fire exercises will be held, then it's tough luck. well, one day, a rancher I guess didn't get his cattle off the property, and they are out threir in their M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tanks.

    As he tells it, a target on a track representing an enemy personell carrier popped up and started running along it's track. One of the tanks in his platoon sighted in on it, loaded a SABOT round (during war time SABOT rounds are made of depleted uranium, since this was a test fire, it was inert metal) and fired. The round, as expected, punched through the target. But rather than just disapear and dive into a berm some where on the live fire range, it ended the life of a bovine. The tankers finished their exercise a few minutes later, and then hooked chains around the largely intact cow, and towed it back to base. Apparently freshly killed cow really is better than the stuff in the super market! Who knew. They said you could hardly taste the accelerants.

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    This info is taken from the CP Listserv. It's written by the author of the "Bullscat" webpage.

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    Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
    Reply-To: cp@opus.labs.agilent.com
    Sender: cp@opus.labs.agilent.com
    From: Barry Meyers-Rice <bamrice@ucdavis.edu>
    Subject: Update on Darlingtonia and cattle



    Hey Folks,

    Today I had a long conference call with staff from the
    Forest Service, who were most displeased with my bullscat web site. It
    seems they've been getting a lot of annoying email messages.

    They have assured me that they are planning on taking a more careful
    approach with the ranchers this year, although it sounds like the grazing
    activities of the ranchers will be continuing (surprise surprise).

    I'll keep you updated. In the meantime, in the spirit of "trust but
    verify", I've changed my web site some to make it a little more friendly.
    The site is still there, though, at:

    http://www.sarracenia.com/land-abuse/bullscat.html

    At this point, you can hold off on emailing the Forest Service until they
    reveal what they plan to do regarding the grazing permits.

    Thanks for your help!

    Cheers

    Barry

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    Barry Meyers-Rice, Ph.D.
    bazza@sarracenia.com
    Carnivorous Plant FAQ--author
    www.sarracenia.com/faq.html
    Carnivorous Plant Newsletter--editor
    www.carnivorousplants.org


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    Way to Go everyone! Pats on the back all around! (Ready for Round 2!)

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    I sent them an email which was NOT "annoying". I expressed my concern in a nice way. And I got an email back in just a few days which I thought was reasonable...filling in some of the gaps in the facts. It has a lot to do with centuries old grazing laws. I don't think they are insensitive to the subject but want to work out something that will please all parties. And I hope they do.

    Suzanne

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    Who ever wants to organize a petition, you could try http://www.petitiononline.com/. Some one start it and post the link. We'll all go "sign" it.

    And if the Forestry Department is upset about getting annoying E-mails from people concerned about the environment, maybe they are in wrong line of work.

    D. Buck.

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    my sentiments exactly DB.

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