Hi.
Ok, about Arnold and Hitler again. In Arnold's quote: "In many ways I admired people — It depends for what. I admired Hitler for instance because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education, up to power. And I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to the people and so on." Arnold did not admire Hitler for the despicable man he became. Arnold admired him because he was an uneducated, low class person who was able to over come this status and become a more powerful person. Also without education he was able to speak well and get the people behind him. All this occurred before Hitler starting killing and taking over Germany. When Hitler started killing, he began abusing his power in a hateful way. This is what is meant by Arnold when he said: "But I didn't admire him for what he did with it." That's all there is to it. Arnold doesn't have a "power fetish" nor is he anti-Semitic Nazi. In fact he has helped an organization for families of the Holocaust and he even had them investigate his once Nazi member dad.
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Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So Arnold basically admires authoritarian "Daddies" who order people to do things and the people then blindly go about doing them?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Nope, he admires people who can pull themselves up their own boot straps, regardless of their social class.
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Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Saddam is nothing like Hitler. Hitler was in power for 3 years and had a war machine that could challenge the best in the world. Saddam was in power since 1969 and only challenged his own people and Iran. He won nothing. Hitler had a plan (a book) for world conquest. Saddam had palaces. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So since Saddam was in power for 30+ years why mess with him right? I mean he was just being a selfless leader right? It's not like he was starving, murdering, torturing, and degrading his people, right? Oh wait he was, wasn't he. Oh well, as long as it's happening several thousand miles away from us. FDR (a democrat) had the same view on Hitler (who had been dictator for 6 yrs. not 3). Hitler was doing the same thing saddam has done, only he was doing it to Jews, the elderly, the physically disabled and the mentally disabled. And FDR knew about it!! But as long as nothing happens here we weren't going to get involved. Well something did happen, and it happened in Pearl Harbor two years after WW II started. We were attacked by the Japan who had joined forces with Hitler. Had we helped defeat Hitler earlier, the Pearl Harbor attack never would have happen. So, Pres. Bush made sure an attack wouldn't happen on American soil by the evil dictator Saddam Hussein.
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Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Plus both men are still free as birds.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yep, they're about as "free" as their people were. Saddam and bin Laden are constantly on the run, hiding in houses and caves to avoid capture.
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Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The sad truth is the sanctions and inspections -- unsexy though they may be -- worked. He was cantained and had no WMD's. I am glad that you know WMD are there even if NEVER found -- that's a great attitude toward evidence.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually there is evidence, it's called the Kay Report. The Kay report was an independent study and found that Saddam had violated Resolution 1441. They also found concealment and destruction of evidence before the UN inspectors showed up. This was continued by Saddam loyalists after Hussein was forced from power. US troops have found burnt documents, rooms, offices and computers.
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Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You see America as an even playing field where the only requirement is sweat. I see a mass of hills and valleys with whole areas already off limits and all sorts of hurdles and handicaps. I wish I could see your idealized Repub vision. I never have. To me, it is unreal at best and a horrible lie at worst.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
It's too bad you have such a pessimistic view of America. I think most people, whether they're a democrat, republican, or no party, view America as the land of opportunity. While not everyone can be a multi-millionaire CEO, they can be successful. And that's one of my favorite things about America.
-buckeye