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    I am not a real religious type. I do not go to church but open to go with anyone to church. I question way too much to believe that god created everything when god had to be created some how. I believe in evolution and that god did not create everything. Also question if religion is so great why people kill each other over beliefs and argue about what happened *I do not mean an open discussion. I mean friendship Enders*. I also do not go by the bible it is way too complicated as I live my life according to how I believe is the right way and have god judge my fate. I am good person and try to do everything I can to keep it that way. I also believe that people shall not judge whether you go to heaven or ####... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] Amen
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]when god had to be created some how.
    Why does God have to be created somehow? I believe He is infinite and eternal (past and future).

    You mention you are an evolutionist, Travis. I would love to have a friendly debate on the validity of Creationism and Evolution if you would be willing. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Oooohhh, I'm in for such a debate, provided we all keep it friendly!

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    Of course, Capslock.

    If I may choose a starting point, the origin of life. What do you believe about the origin of life. Where did it start and when?

    My beliefs follow those of a Creationist, obviously. I believe that God, the all powerful creator of the universe, made all life in 7 24 hour days.

    This is not to say I don't believe in micro evolution, just not macro evolution. Micro evolution results in the variety in species. One example is dogs. Did God create two German Shepherds, two Chihuahas (sp?), two Labs, etc? No.

    Can a dog change from a German Shepherd to a primate though? I'm talking about changing from one species to another here, macro evolution. No.

    Where do you stand?

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    I am game... In a peaceful way of course. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] I also believe we had this discussion before SF. hehehe...
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    I learn something new every time though! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] Plus, I think its good for us to examine our beliefs.

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    The question of the origin of life, biogenesis, is different from that of evolution. But I believe the building blocks of life, proteins, water, energy sources, etc., were present on earth and that there was/is opportunity for life to arise, not spontaneously, but as the natural result of mixing ingredients in an ideal environment. Of course, a single, replicating protein from hundreds of millions of years ago would leave essentially no trace, so we'll have to specualte about that. Even if we were able to duplicate it in a lab, which I think we eventually will, there is no way to prove that's how it happened in this case.

    Evolution, however, is different. I believe that evolution is an established fact, being directly observed in both nature and in the labs (including many instances of speciation.) However, the exact driving forces and mechanisms that comprise evolution, as well as the available evolutionary record, are not completely known, and will probably never be 100% settled. Nevertheless, it is clear from the fossil record, and from direct observation in labs and nature, that animals evolve.

    I also believe there is no real separation between "micro" and "macro" evolution, and in fact those terms aren't often used in the scientific community. Speciation, the intruduction of one species from another, is just an arbitrary artifact of evolution, producable by prolonged geographic isolation or through a particular genetic mutation. There are equally significant evolutionary changes within species. Of course, any change, multplied over millions of years, will appear much more drastic than a simple case of one species of chipmunk spawning another similar species of chipmunk.

    Finally, I believe there is ample evidence from an abundance of sources that the earth is billions of years old, and not several thousand as some say is stated by the Bible. There are many dating methods and evidences that overlap and line up with eachother indicating an ancient earth and universe. From a multitude of radiometric dating, to the light arriving from distant stars, to stratographic dating, there are many examples of compelling physical evidence of an ancient earth, and no corresponding physical evidence of a young earth.

    There, that's a huge start! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    I agree Caplock. Man hit that on the head... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/img] I am stumped on what to say right now... Mountain Dew break...
    \"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.\"
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