For Noah,
great stuff! I like the way you think..even if I dont agree with all of it!
I can back them up with plenty!
its really not an overstatement at all..
yes there is evidence for *small* *local* floods..
but there is no evidence to support "Noah's flood"..the great global flood.
there is no uniform silt layer found everywhere on the planet, as there should be if the global flood was true.
the flood myth goes against many of "natures laws" and against many laws of physics and logic..
all the layers of the earth disprove the flood myth.
rather than post all the hundreds of problems with the flood theory, I will just let these links speak for me:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/geocolumn/
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH541.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH542.html
To Jeremiah:
no problem!
I believe the bible to be untrue in the matter of literal creationism (genesis) and the flood story..among others..
here are some facts to support evolution.
Fossil layers in sedementary rocks have primitive animals in lower, older layers, and more advanced plants and animals in higher, younger layers..
you NEVER find mammal or dinosaur fossils in the same layers with Trilobyte fossils! why not? easy..because they didnt live at the same time..
they were seperated by many millions of years.
the horse.
Fossils exist for many intermediate froms leading up to the modern horse.
from a small dog-like crerature right up to our modern horse.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/horses/horse_evol.html
the evolution of the horse can be read like a time-lapse movie!
its accepted as fact (by everyone except literal creationists that is)
Birds evolved directly from dinosaurs..
why no bird fossils mixed in with dinosaur fossils?
why did bird fossils only appear *after* the dinsoaurs were extinct?
its very easy to explain these puzzles in the fossil record!
australopithecus afarensis.
this was a real creature.
no one made up these fossils!
How does creationism explain a creature that has both Ape characteristics and Human characteristics? it cant.
it doesent fit into the bible.
These creatures were nearly human..wouldnt God have mentioned our more primitive cousins if they were walking around with Adam and Eve?
why didnt he?
there were also dozens of other primitive human-like creatures..yet there is zero mention of any of them in the bible..why not?
just the simple fact that different fossils exist in different layers is enough to blow the flood theory and creationism both out of the water..
neither theory (flood or literal creationism) can explain why Trilobyte fossils appear ONLY in very old rock layers..and at the same time why mammal and bird fossils exist ONLY in totally different and much newer layers..
Science has no problems explaining those facts..
Creationists need to go to MUCH MUCH greater lengths to explain away everything on and in the earth that disproves their theory..
While scientists have no such problems with geology or fossils..
I could go on..but you asked for proof, and I gave some..
Scot
great stuff! I like the way you think..even if I dont agree with all of it!
[b said:Quote[/b] ]That, as you well know, is the overstatement of the day. There is a lot of evidence for a flood, and much of the stuff found in the Bible. Don't give sweeping statements like that unless you are willing and able to back them up with something.
I can back them up with plenty!
its really not an overstatement at all..
yes there is evidence for *small* *local* floods..
but there is no evidence to support "Noah's flood"..the great global flood.
there is no uniform silt layer found everywhere on the planet, as there should be if the global flood was true.
the flood myth goes against many of "natures laws" and against many laws of physics and logic..
all the layers of the earth disprove the flood myth.
rather than post all the hundreds of problems with the flood theory, I will just let these links speak for me:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/geocolumn/
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH541.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH542.html
To Jeremiah:
[b said:Quote[/b] ] have a few questions for you.
Where do you believe the bible to be untrue?
Where is the so called "facts" to support evolution?
Hope to hear you response.
no problem!
I believe the bible to be untrue in the matter of literal creationism (genesis) and the flood story..among others..
here are some facts to support evolution.
Fossil layers in sedementary rocks have primitive animals in lower, older layers, and more advanced plants and animals in higher, younger layers..
you NEVER find mammal or dinosaur fossils in the same layers with Trilobyte fossils! why not? easy..because they didnt live at the same time..
they were seperated by many millions of years.
the horse.
Fossils exist for many intermediate froms leading up to the modern horse.
from a small dog-like crerature right up to our modern horse.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/horses/horse_evol.html
the evolution of the horse can be read like a time-lapse movie!
its accepted as fact (by everyone except literal creationists that is)
Birds evolved directly from dinosaurs..
why no bird fossils mixed in with dinosaur fossils?
why did bird fossils only appear *after* the dinsoaurs were extinct?
its very easy to explain these puzzles in the fossil record!
australopithecus afarensis.
this was a real creature.
no one made up these fossils!
How does creationism explain a creature that has both Ape characteristics and Human characteristics? it cant.
it doesent fit into the bible.
These creatures were nearly human..wouldnt God have mentioned our more primitive cousins if they were walking around with Adam and Eve?
why didnt he?
there were also dozens of other primitive human-like creatures..yet there is zero mention of any of them in the bible..why not?
just the simple fact that different fossils exist in different layers is enough to blow the flood theory and creationism both out of the water..
neither theory (flood or literal creationism) can explain why Trilobyte fossils appear ONLY in very old rock layers..and at the same time why mammal and bird fossils exist ONLY in totally different and much newer layers..
Science has no problems explaining those facts..
Creationists need to go to MUCH MUCH greater lengths to explain away everything on and in the earth that disproves their theory..
While scientists have no such problems with geology or fossils..
I could go on..but you asked for proof, and I gave some..
Scot