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    ooooooh. ok well now that i know that i feel smarter. well i want to get the live moss.
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    Pardon my ignorance. But, what is vinegar used to test for?

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    sand/rock containing calcium and other basic (pH) minerals will fizzle slightly when put into vinegar as the minerals are dissolved and CO2 is released. Depending on the amount of these minerals and the strength of the vinegar(acid) you might see a steady stream of bubbles or just the occasional bubble so you need to observe closely.

    It is a general test to determine the sand doesn't have any easily dissolved minerals that will raise the pH of the potting mix and raise the level of minerals in the potting mix. Both of which would be bad for your cps.
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    Hi All,

    As an old killifish breeder I have been in an intimate relationship with peat moss for 30 years :-). Let me give you a few tips from using peat to breed fish that might help with cps. Killifish breeders boil their peat moss before they use it. You must use a pot that has no exposed metal -- all glass, the blue enamel coated Mexican pots, etc. The acid peat can pick up metals from boiling if you use a regular stainless steel pot. We boil it for about 30 minutes to work the extra acidity out of it and to water log it. Afterwards, we rinse it well in a 10" fish net to rinse off more acidity. Then we use it for breeding. If we want it to alter water chemistry, we do not boil it but just soak it for several days until it sinks. That way we keep the intense acid content of the peat to use in changing hard alkaline water into more acidic soft water -- takes alot of peat to alter hard water! We try to buy half bushel and full bushels of peat moss. I go to a place called Southwest Fertilizer that specializes in serious lanscape and gardening needs so they have several brands of bushel size peat. The best brands list the pH of their peat on the bag or give a 800 number where you can call and ask them all about their peat. I will also buy peat at small nurseries that sell organic potting soil and the like as they usually find and sell a truly pure brand of peat. I avoid the small bags of peat sold by large mass market companies. We also use "peat fiber". It is wonderful stuff more like course hair than soil. It is common and cheap in Europe but rare here. A fish hobby equipment manufactor named "Hagen" does sell small boxes of it but they cost around $5 on line. It might be great for cps as it would be more like dried spaghnum moss. Also a bonsai company in Dallas sells a peat that I hear is close to this fiber peat but I do not have the website address. I use Premier Peat Moss. It comes in a black bag and it is 100% pure peat. I have never seen sand in it. I am trying 2 new brands -- Sunshine and something else -- I need to look and see what it is. Sunshine brand looks good.

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    Updates- I have repotted most of my plants except for my utics and some other plants. This is how bad my peat was, I was repotting my pygmy sundews and half of the peat on the bottom was the bad peat made by Scotts, and the top half was a good peat mixture from Schultz. Well, to my amazment the roots stopped right at the line where the two types of peat touched!
    Hopefully everything will start to turn out better.
    Man repotting takes a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time to do. it took me several hours just to repot ten pots and wash the peat. And theres still lots more pots to go...
    But my spirits are still high because know I now the reason why the plants aren't healthy, and some died wasn't because of me mostly...I hope...
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    Capslock,

    I have been nuking my peat for some time too. I usually do a small cardboard box for three minutes. I use to go as high as nine, but the peat started burning(in the olden days, it was used as fuel), lol. I sometimes wonder if that would be fun to play with for tuberous Drosera seed of Byblis gigantea.
    Anyway, I usually put it in large baggies and keep adding water and kneeding it until it's saturated. I have never heard of floating peat vs sinking. I have seen that with orchid bark though.
    Funny enough, sand is in dried LF sphagnum too. I used to boil that and I would end up with sand on the bottom. The problem with boiling LF sphagnum is if you do it too long, it really kills it's immunity to fungus.

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    so where can i find good peat?
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    Most garden centers carry Canadian peat, which is what I use. I think most of what is available in the US should be acceptable. Just be sure you don't get "sedge peat" which is a totally different product, and not acceptable for CP cultivation.
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