!!! Never read trashcans post until just now *woops* [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif[/img]. My only point is that it always takes time for the "cure" for a virus to be released, how many users do you think were effected since then? Another nice point of Linux, you brought up the fact that you would "need to get" drivers for your hardware if you switch OSs, the great part is that Linux already HAS drivers, you can always get different ones, but it comes with drivers for everything already. There a few points that I can agree with you though, a). Games, Windows for me is just used a games platform, and only when I can't run a game using WINE, b). not being stupid on the user end can be a big factor in avoiding get a virus, but then, there are the ones that simply slip in through open ports, or that activate themselves when you simply click on a email, you don't need to download anything, just click the email... I myself would just rather be assured that something like that doesn't happen, Linux requires some changes is you want it to be bullet-proof but it as a bare bones product is more secure that any Windows version. Last point, many organizations use Linux as a software firewall, if that's not security... Oh, and as for Adaware and Spybot S&D find different spyware, there are occasional items that one will find, but not the other, but if I had to choose one, I'd go with Adaware.