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    WOW, thanks for the great post Patrick. I am always worried about virus and security. I am always getting infected email
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    Yes, thank you very much Pat, you bring up some excellent points, a lot of trouble can be avoided by good habits, i.e. patching, etc. In my experience, the largest source of problems comes from lack of awareness, people don't know about spyware, people don't know why their computer is acting funny, some people simply don't understand that visiting "stupidpoopie.com" sites is a good idea, especially if you dont have virus/spyware removers. Last point on Linux is that change is always hard at first, for instance, would it be a good idea for the US to switch to the metric system? Of course, but people refuse to make a big switch simply because it's overwhelming to think about, and the benefits just don't seem to come fast enough. See, I don't like having to boast Linux, but the Windows is just a bad platform (it's no fun working to fix an illogical system, can anyone say divided by zero?), but I definitley agree that the main point is less what OS you use, and more your habits. If people run in to a problem, I'm always more than glad to help because I make sure that they understand what the problem was, so that in the future they can take care of it themselves, and also help others. Glad we could resolve this peacefully (now if only other people would learn) [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
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    I am a XP user but also know that XP is a favorite target of mean-spirited PC savvy. I know nothing of MAC except they make nice shells for the system very fashionable. XP still to this days has at least 6 holes I know of, on most sytems that is. Trojans can be imlpemented easily on XP through many sources. I never cared for Linux personally though there is nothing wrong with it. As mentioned previously though it will not make anything easier for the folks who are worried about spies, viruses, trojans, etc.... As these are the people who just don't know in the first place how to really "tweek" their sytems. Linux is for people who are serious computer users. I have "experimented" with friendly trojans which are the most fun. It's unbeleivable how easy it is to enter usually. Sometimes asking your firewall for directions [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] . No more though. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif[/img]
    It really comes down to knowing your comp. and programs and the environment around you. Knowledge IS power! It's all too easy to appeal to the nature of people and come to them with proposals that they can't help but CLICK. I have a friend that continually visits porn sites and is constantly bogged in all kinds of spies, viruses and whatever and I tell him STAY AWAY FROM THAT JUNK. Thats where it all comes from. Again too much appeal to be avoided fro him. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img]

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]As mentioned previously though it will not make anything easier for the folks who are worried about spies, viruses, trojans, etc....
    *ahem* Actually, that's incorrect, there are no viruses, or spyware on Linux. Tweeking is only about adding on, when you get it out of the box, or download, it already comes virtually bulletproof. Tweeks would only be made if A) you didn't ever want to simply download the update (works automatically, nothing special on your part) or B) to protect you machine from ALL intrusions, that is, people who are determined to break in to your system. Futhermore, I know for fact that Suse Linux has been working on a high-security version, so that you wouldn't need to anything yourself anyway. As for you friend, I guess that he's screwed until they come up with clean dirty sites [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]
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    I'm sorry that didn't accurately say what I meant. What I meant was that people who are constantly concerned with the virus, etc... problem are usually not all that skilled with the comp. they have. Where as people who are a bit more skilled are not in the frenzy that the others are. While Linux is less at threat it requires more knowledge, which is already a problem with the easier system that they are using. It would be more efficient for more many reasons if they became skilled in windows or whatever then moved on to the Linux or MAC [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif[/img] (I forgot its name). At least the people that I know even on XP are not terribly concerned with viruses blah blah, etc... Intrusion would not be easy and probably a wrong move for you [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] . Because they are comfortable with their knowledge and system they have.
    My point is that by "worried about spies etc..." I meant and should have written uncomfortable with their knowledge and sytems operation.

    I meant fine tuning if you will.

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    Hey Est,

    That's not true. There have been several viruses for Linux (I literally mean "several" not a lot). Check out this one, I thought this was pretty interesting because it worked across Windows and Linux.
    http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcente....le.html

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    Hi all

    The virus's of linux and mac are not one's that will blow it out of the water
    and have to do reinstalls. Windows computers are always going to have the numbers,but in time Mac and linux will increas as theyn are doing now. As a tid bit of info.. THe mac os x has been developed to run on a pc, it still intesting. I wonder if life became just about virus free by converting and having a new os on your pc's Hummmmm just thinking )

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    The spyware my computer had accumulated over three years had slowed it down to the point I was going to reinstall windows...which is not a fun job...just to get things cleaned up. I installed Ad-aware as Patrick suggested and could not believe how great it worked. My puter boots in one-quarter the time and my programs are running much faster.
    Thanks for the info Trashcan. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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