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    Hi pasoftim

    LOL, I too agree with WPG.

    The thread below began as a survey of people's religious preferences and somewhere along the way turned into a debate about the existence of God, for some of us. Have a look at it and youíll get a good idea of different peopleís stand on the issue.

    Survey on religious preferences

    Godís existence cannot be definitively proven or disproven and, at the end of the day, if everyone is happy with whatever it is they believe does it really matter?

    I should also hope that you would not base your belief in godís existence (or not) on a post on a public forum.

    Cheers, Troy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Kirkscoastalcarnivores @ May 06 2004,6:10)]Any of you guys seen the passion of the christ, I respect all viewpoints out there, but there is one thing about the jewish religion, How can Jesus be just "a good man" He was either a lying, cheating, blaspheming Idiot, or what he said he was, think of it like this, would a good man say he was the king of the jews, and gods son?
    I personaly am a christian, and believe in Jesus
    The reason he was a good man to the Jews was because they had a different idea of God's son and what he would do. He didn't fulfill their prophecy.
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    I Talked to God just the other day, so this is a timely topic. One of the things he mentioned to me is that he dislikes killing, and he wants to know where we get off killing anyone in his name, for the sake of some religion or other. He was quite clear, and more than a little ticked off when he told me to post this message "No more killing in the name of God". Feel free to pass this message on to everyone in your email directory.

    Another issue he has is with holier than thou attitudes. Going to church doesn't make someone holy any more than standing in a garage makes them a mechanic.
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    Hey Tamlin, I don't know that killing in the name of God is an issue these days...

    I agree on the second point though, many people go to church and you wouln't be able to tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Hey Tamlin, I don't know that killing in the name of God is an issue these days...
    Have you not watched the news in the last decade or so? Used to be the fanatic Christians that where killing in the name of religion, now it is the fanatic Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Casper @ May 06 2004,10:03)]Back in Froyd's (I know I raped his name) day they would raise children in a completly segregated atmosphere. Children that where not taught who God was, never developed a beliefe for god. So, point in case, religion is not FAITH it is taught. You are taught to believe in god. If any of you that believe in Jesus where born in China, you would not believe in Jesus. That is as close to religous fact as it gets. So how can you, with an open mind, truely believe that it is true?

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    Quote[/b] ]human logic is limited. You (one) can't prove things that our human logic can't fully understand. All existentialism aside, sooner or later we have to accept, or have faith
    Not all to different from people a few thousand years ago that believed there was a sun god. They believed so becuase they could not explain the sun, so they made a "god" up to explain it. Not all the different from today. Anything that we can not explain right now, we chalk up to "god".
    [QUOTE]. You are taught to believe in god. If any of you that believe in Jesus where born in China, you would not believe in Jesus.

    Well, not to go to deep but please feel free to do a google search on Christians in China. You will find that not only are there Christians in China, but statisticaly there are MORE CHRISTIANS IN CHINA THAN IN THE U.S. However Christianity
    is illegal there and all the Churches are underground. So basicaly, not only do the Chinese have faith in Christ, but enough faith to die for Him. Typicaly an understanding of what Christ as the Son of God has done for us is growing at an astounding rate in most 3rd world countries. My step-sister is in an Arab country as a student/ missionary, and one of our youth went to China last year to share the gospel and had more people sharing Christ with her. Many people who grow up in diffirent areas believe in all sorts of things like incest, using children to deliver granades to soldiers, using daughters to check fields for land mines(boys are considered indispensable) so the beast of burdens aren't accidentaly killed by land mines are a very few examples. Does this make them right? it's how they were raised, and if there is no God to judge then who are we to say these are attrocites.

    Tamlin to agree let me quote ...myself
    "people do all sorts of things in the name of god, but few people do anything in God's name"- Justin Zak
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    Actually WPG, Jesus fufilled every single one of the 100's of prophesies written 600 years before his birth. He just didn't fufill them the way they thought he would.
    I always suspect everything is a trap....thats why I'm still alive

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    Hi,

    I have always felt that the creation of religion and God was, first, a way to imaginatively explain the mysteries of living in story -- not scientific -- form and is now a way to avoid seeing that WE, US, HUMANITY is solely responsible for what happens in our lives on earth (putting natural forces aside). How much nicer for us if we have a set of beliefs and a God to blame/explain or credit with our extremes of goodness and evil. How nice for us "children" to have a mystical parental image to bless us and punish us.

    God is our mind. God is us. God is our ultimate action of abstracting experience. I'd love to see the day when people stopped waiting for salvation and heaven and realized that "heaven" is here and now for as long as we live and that only by taking responsibility -- not only for ourselves -- but for one another and for a just society as a whole, can we ever DO the dreams we have locked away in our religions and empowered a God we created to deliver. It is us. It is all us. We are the creative force in life. God is but an image we created of that force.

    Bobby

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