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    here it is http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/

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    They are certainly documentaries. They are news clips, footage, and an array of facts accompanied by commentary.

    Pyro, I'm a news junkie. I get news from more sources than most people know extist. Pretty much everything in F-9/11 is stuff that I already knew, and nothing is made up. Unfotrunately, I think you've been had. Those were not mobile weapons labs or tankers full of butulin, and Colin Powell has even admitted that now. It was faulty intelligence. The independent 9/11 Commission found no evidence of a WMD program, and certainly now we know that Iraq was no threat to the US or even their neighbors.

    Farenheidt 9/11 has been almost universally praised by critics, even on the ultra-conservative Fox News. It raise hard and relevant questions that need to be faced, no matter how much easier it is to just think Moore is an idiot.

    Rattler, be careful of those so-called debunking sites. They are so biased it's not funny. And the criticisms seem to melt on close observation. There were things in BfC that were edited to make a point, but Moore is up front about having a point of view, especially in Bowling for Columbine. F-911 is a rigorously researched documentary, which I can attest to having read and digested most all of the facts there over the last four years. If you think you can debunk anything in the film, by all means try.

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    Well said Capslock. And everything in this movie is a part of the public record, and can be researched. So like I said, Don't put blinders on, do your own research. I did.



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    Capslock while i do tend to agree with you on MOST debunking sites. this one actually has links to where he got his info for ppl to go look it up themselves and that is one of the main reasons i was willing to post it. i am not saying that Bush did no wrong and i have yet to see Moores new movie(i may rent it but i aint paying $7 plus to see it in theaters) what i am saying is personally i think Moore is an idiot who is only out to make a name for himself. after doing my own research on his first big movie i really dont trust him. ALSO in general i really dont trust news from the "big corprates" they tend to be very biased. i watch the news but i dont take them litterally most of the time. i work for a small weekly newspaper and i KNOW how easy it is to slant the "news" one way or the other. like i said i would rather not get into an argument on this forum, and would hate to make enemies here, however i thought i would post the link for others who may not be aware of the contraversy.

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    I hear you rattler. I love a good political debate, and never think of people who disagree as anything but friends, but I know a lot of people get too emotional about it. I have more respect for someone who argues the other side than those who never say anything.

    Bowling for Columbine had some twisting of facts and events to make a point, but nobody debates that the Columbine shooting happened, and that we have a whole lot of gun deaths. But it wasn't really an anti-gun movie. Moore points out over and over that they have lots of guns in Canada, as well as worse unemployment, but they don't the violence. The central thesis was that the US has a culture of fear that leads to violence, which is, in my opinion, completely true. Our news from the "big corporates" is biased, but not for a political party, but rather for sensationalism and alarmism. They flood us with images of violence and crime, making them seem way out of proportion to the actual problems.

    Anyway, F9/11 struck me as less of an opinion or editorial than BfC, and more simply fact-based. It's still a Moore-style commentary, and makes Bush look pretty silly, but there are fewer editing tricks and more straight info.

    Whatever your opinion of Moore, I find it refreshing that someone actually admits they have a point of view. All news and editorial comes from some bias or specific point of view, but nobody ever admits it. At least Moore does.

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    well my views on alot of things tend to be unpopular with......well im not sure how to describe them, i think of them as soft "uneducated" ppl but even that isnt quite right. most of themthink everything they see on tv is the unbiased truth which drives me up the wall. i hate the fact that the major news medias play up all these "defencless hostages" but when they get footage of individuals who faught back such as the Italian gentalman who decided to show the terrorists how a real Italian dies and tried to attack his captors after they forced him to dig his own grave got almost NO air time. that is horrible im my views. and is only showing one side of the story.

    alot of my view are very unpopular and ive been run out of a number of forum and would rather not have that happen here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ] i hate the fact that the major news medias play up all these "defencless hostages" but when they get footage of individuals who faught back such as the Italian gentalman who decided to show the terrorists how a real Italian dies and tried to attack his captors after they forced him to dig his own grave got almost NO air time
    Rattler, where did you hear about this? I never even heard about this Italian guy. Good for him! The fact I never knew about it really supports your point.

    I will reserve judgement about f-9/11 until I see it for myself.
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    i saw it aired ONCE on one of the major channels about 8 weeks or more ago. i know i didnt see things cause someone else brought it up on another one of my "hobby" forums i visit where they have certain forums where politcs are often disscussed.

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