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    i agree fully with you Copper on the no child left behind. last iknew on the testing, in Montana atleast, it just didnt make sence. the test was good for what it was designed for but testing students abilities was not one of them. i believe it tried to flatten out the bell curve which means the same child taking the same test will not always place the same everytime they take the test. also like you said what about the students in public school that just dont want to be there? no matter what you do you will not be able to educate them. i have ALOT of experiance in this area being that ive grown up on a reservation. taking funding away from school that are trying, reguardless of whether or not test scores "prove" they are advancing is idiotic. most schools do alot with very little, taking more away will just cause them to close down. also being this was an unfunded mandate causes lots of stress on school budgets. the local school had to pull a math teacher and make his job solely to make sure the school met the NCLB act requirements, a full time job. so how much money is wasted here because the goerment says we have to do this?

    GG im with you. i think the world is a better place with Saddam out of there. i think our war over there is justified, and going by some of the letters from soldiers that ive seen, the general populace of Iraq is glad we went over there too. they may want us back out of there as soon as humanly possible but they are glad we did finally get over there. i also agree this war was started along time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ] Iraq is glad we went over there too
    have you seen the latest iraqi polls?

    Those who veiw us as occupiers: 93%
    Those who veiw us as liberators: 7%

    And despite the deficet, i have heard nothing that suggests the current goverment is limiting its spendings
    that makes no logic

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    im not doubting you Finch but polls can be skewed just like the "news", you can get any out come you want as long as you poll the right ppl. note i said they were glad we went over there but they would now like us out of there ASAP.

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    SKewed? perhaps, and i dont recall the sorce
    that makes no logic

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    Not another political topic!!! All I'll say is I like bush and if i could vote, I'd vote for him
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    like i said i dont doubt you, as far as i know you got it from a fairly reputable source. i remember a saying somewhere that goes like: "75% of all statistics are made up". anyways im just saying the general populous of Iraq is glad we took out Saddam BUT they now would like us out of THEIR country as soon as possible just like the recent poll you sited says. i beileve polls closer to the time we took out Saddam were 60/40 for us being there. my memories poor so dont take my word for it but i believe the majority were for us being there as far as the polls showed.

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    I think most politicians are crooks, and that includes the two candidates. I've always likes Nader's views on things, but don't really think he'd be the best thing for our country. I'm probably leaning towards Kerry, the "lesser of two evils" kind of thing. I truly believe the iraq war was a big mistake, or at least gone about the wrong way. I think they had already made up their minds prior to 9/11, and for that alone, i dont think Bush deserves another term, not to mention his environmental policies (or lack thereof) and his catering to corporations (especially oil). I haven't seen Fahrenheit 9/11 yet, but from what I've read, the facts are indisputable, and it paints Bush in an unfavorable way. That being said, I will go into the election with an open mind, will watch the debates, etc. and make up my mind in early Nov.

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    sarracenia, i to agree some things with the war were gone about in the wrong way. i also like the way you said your going to keep an open mind until election day. me however has learned enough about Kerry through his voting in Congress, which is public record and out in the open to make me VERY wary of him as a leader. Bush may not be the best but atleast i know his stance on things by how he has acted in the last 3 years. like Copper said Kerry is way to undesisive, he has voted one way then 12 months or so later taken a completly different stance on a similar vote. through the only things he has even bothered to show up to vote for since campaigning(namely gun control which i am HIGHLY against) i really dont think i want him in power. its my personal view but it is what ive seen so far.

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