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    I've been reading this topic over the past several days and I would like to comment.

    So far in this discussion, the suggestion that the legalization of gay marriage could lead to other things like pedophilia, polygamy, etc. has generally been dismissed as being absurd. Let me point out this: 50 years ago, or even more recently, people would be shocked at the idea of legalizing gay marriage. Now many people deem this idea as socially acceptable. 50 years from now, the things that are generally accepted will have changed so much that things like pedophilia, polygamy, etc. that people may be deemed acceptable. One example of what is and isn't acceptable now and in the past can be seen in the media. The movies that are rated PG-13 today would have been rated R in the early 90's. The same thing goes for tv. Things that were censored several years ago are allowed now.

    So, basically, my point is that just because pedophila, etc. is now looked upon as something loathsome, doesn't mean that it will be in the future.

    I hope I've gotten my point across clearly.

    And, by the way, I agree with wesley, zak, buckeye.
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    How exactly would gay marriage lead to pedophilia but straight marriage wouldn't? What's the logical progression there?

    Incidentally, the same arguement was used not too long ago about interracial marriage, which was also banned. Nobody whines about "redefining marriage" in that case nowadays, but they sure did then. Incidentally, it was the courts then, too, that made the call.

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    Not to mention statistically, pedophilia and molestation are more likely among straights than gays. Hello... liking the same sex has NOTHING to do with liking children or other random weird things.

    Man/woman
    man/man
    woman/woman

    Nothing in there says CHILDREN

    Ugh.

    I'm staying out of this one I think.
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    Elarwhis, I give you credit that many social things change but, the thing is that 1) It is generally not accepted by any that sex with anything outside of the human race is OK.
    2) While large age gaps are one thing, it is quite another to be attracted to someone physically and mentally immature. To be attracted to children is a perversion and shows some kind of defficiency in mental capability, socially and otherwise.
    Having sex and/or a relationship with a consenting adult whithin your maturity and social level is normal. The same with a socially, mentally and physically imature individual is not normal. Everyone has need for a partner to relate life and experiences with regardless of gender, but to say that "allowing" gay marriages COULD lead to acceptance of perverse attractions is totally unfounded. If an adult is attracted to child it shows that the person either has a distorted veiw of sex or is at the same mental wavelenghth, if the last is the case then like a child the person doesn't have the mental maturity to be carring on relationships, if its the first then they arein capable of any normal relationships anyways.

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    A child is not capable of informed consent to have sex. This is why it's ALWAYS wrong. And this is why it's totally unrelated to gay marriage, which is only among consenting adults.

    This critical difference is why there is no "slippery slope" arguement that is applicable.

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    Scot, if you will read my last post, I pointed out that these things affect all of society. Our kids could be taught that what is immoral is okay, our whole world would bombard us even more with temptations to fall into an immoral lifestyle.

    May I remind you all, that its not like the gay "marriage" issue is the first step down the slippery slope. It started with legalizing no fault divorce and abortion. These seem normal now, so now we have a new issue to discuss. When gay "marriage" seems normal, people will be fighting for something even worse. This would not necessarily be pedophilia; more likely something such as incest.

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    get with the times , man! you can't live in the past!

    your religion is all about peace and love , but right now your pretty much standing agianst it.


    you can't make laws based on any religion, no even christianity, so making a law that says gay's can't get married is absurd because theres no reason for it (other than religion, which no one cares about in politics). however, amending the constitution and redefininf "marriage" is perfectly acceptable because theres no reason not to, other than religion. and remember, no one cares about religion in politics.


    being gay has nothing to do with having sex kids/relatives/animals/etc. and like i said earlier and someone said recently, most people who do that are STRAIGHT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Oh, and buckeye, the ammendment lost 48-50, not 50-48. It didn't even get a simple majority, much less the 60% it needed.
    Thanks for pointing this out Capslock. I simply misread it.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]well..if my opinion shouldnt influence laws, and your opinion shouldnt influence laws, then I guess we both should get what we want!
    Gay marriage will become legal, and gay marriage will not become legal..
    great thinking!!
    thanks for showing me the error of my ways..your way makes so much sense,
    we will just have NO opinions effect any laws! (or was it ALL laws are based on opinions? im not sure..I think you said both..)
    Ok, you told me, and I quote, "why should YOUR OPINION become LAW?? there is no reason at all.." Alright, so you just asked me why should my opinion become law. And then you said that there is no reason for my opinion to become law at all. Since you said this to me I decided to throw the question back to you and I asked you "why should your opinion become law?" You didn't answer this question and instead made a bunch of snotty, sarcastic remarks at me. After I asked you that question I then began to talk about how pretty much every law we have is based on opinion. I didn't say that neither of our opinions should affect law or any of the other stuff you wrote. Since you told me my opinion was wrong and should not become a law I then asked you to tell me what makes you so sure that your opinion is right and should become law.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]I find it hilarious that this is maybe your 4th or 5th reply about my question, and you STILL refuse to answer it!
    I've given many other answers but here's yet another. It will affect me personally if homosexual marriage is allowed because I will have to sit back and realize that America has once again screwed up and made sinful behavior law. There. That's my answer. I'm sure you won't accept this answer just like the countless others, but honestly I don't really care. I'm tired of the sarcastic remarks and the lack of respect you give to people with different beliefs than you. And so with that, the debate between you and me is over.


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