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Unbeliavable!

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I am getting 4 orchids from my friend in France, but when she went to the post office and told them that they were live orchids going to England, the ppl refused to post it because:

1)They dont handle fragile things

2) They dont ship live orchids, or other vegatble products without a phytosanitary certificate

3) If my friend is to do this,she needs to provide a phytosanitary certificate as well as ship extra-expensive chrono post, taking shipping cost for these 4 orchids up to the 100 euro mark.

This is simply ridicilous and outrageous, the law says it is completely legal to send orchids to England! It also says no certificates or permits are needed!
They are being complete jerks!  
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So if you want to send a box of carrots to England, you would have to pay 100 euros! They think a bit high of themselves!
aI am very angry, and so is my friend!  
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Dino
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Dino,
Slow down there, buddy. I very well may be that you need those certificates. International shipping of live matter is very strickly regulated. No one wants possible pests or contagens getting spread about.
 
Its not what the official law says! It says that you dont need any permits to ship stuff to the EU, but America is a different matter. You dont need those certificates, thats why I am angry! They tried to make my freind pay out on something unnecesarry and very costly. My friend is an orchid specialist, and she knows all about the law and the permits. And you dont need one to ship from France to England. They just want her money, and lots of it!
And they say that for all plants, so you need to pay 100 euros to send carrots from France to England! That is so not on!
Dino
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No offence meant to you, schloaty.
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Oh yeah, I live in the U.K(In Europe, NOT the one in America!)and my friend lives in France.
 
No certificate is needed for shipping within the EU as far as I know.
 
The whole EU thing is still kinda new and there are still problems with the system. Off the top of my head I don't know how the CITES and Phytosanitary laws were changed when dealing between countries that are part of the EU agreement. It doesn't surprise me though that not everyone is up on possible changes. If it is true that you no longer need CITES and/or Phyto certificates then that information should be available and only a matter of bringing copies to the postal folks for them to review.

The issue of handling live material etc is another matter and they can set their own policies. Here in the US the Postal service regulations vary for each country on what they will/are allowed to transport.

Screaming how lousy they are and how angry you are isn't going to resolve the situation however.

T
 
Of course is true that you dont need permits, it says it in the law.
As soon as the word 'orchid' or the word 'plant' or the word 'England' come into context, they refuse to ship it!
Dino
 
Well, there is no use complaining.... just bring the law or exempt of saying you need no permit printed to the post office as proof...
 
please dont say "the french" in that context. i find it racist and offensive.
 
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Dino,
Speak to DEFRA in Bristol, they maybe able to advise you on the matter
 
  • #11
Can't your friend just go to a different post office and not mention what's in the parcels?

I know CPs can be shipped all over the EU but what kind of orchids are you getting?
 
  • #12
Im getting 4 orchids, two Ascocendas, an Epidendrum and a Phaleonopsis.
She has somehow managed to find a way round it, but the cost is expensive, 40 euros! But, its the only way...........
 
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Quote[/b] (JustLikeAPill @ Aug. 25 2004,10:03)]please dont say "the french" in that context. i find it racist and offensive.
I don't understand what you mean.
 
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well perhaps your friend could send it to another friend in some country in EU, then send it to you.... it would cost alot, but not 100 euro's, I dont think!

PS... theres a UK in amerrica!??!!??!

PSS.... who cares??? its france!! There country motto should be We surrender!
 
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[b said:
Quote[/b] (Lauderdale @ Aug. 26 2004,12:30)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (JustLikeAPill @ Aug. 25 2004,10:03)]please dont say "the french" in that context. i find it racist and offensive.
I don't understand what you mean.
in the context it was bad. he didn't say "these french people", he said "the french" making a generalization about all french people. thats like saying "those arabs" or "those Bosnians", it's not nice in that context.

and that's not cool either plantslikebugs.
 
  • #17
Someone told me once:
"But England is in America, its in the North Eastern States."
So now I am forced to always specify to aviod confusion.

Thats not racism.
 
  • #18
Hey I live in northeastern US
New Hampshire, which happens to be in New england
 
  • #19
I have had this same problem with orchids. The word ORCHID is taboo when shipping plants. Try sending them as "soiless houseplants"

Steve
 
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yeah it is racist. it's like saying "those blacks just want my money" or "those mexicans are so lazy" or "those whites are so snobby!" and we all know those things aren't true. generalizations are bad.

lol, and it's NEW england lol.
 
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