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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (pond boy @ Oct. 11 2004,2:01)]Yeah Clint you are all against hunting but what do you grow? Plants that eat animals! Besides hunting is part of the food chain Humans just like any other animal need to eat and as we are omnivorous we find our food in both vegetable and animal matter. We need to eat just like anything else how do we do this by either raising our own food. Or scavenging it from the wild. And hunting isn`t very cruel the animal(if you`re a good shot) would only hurt for a few minutes. Yet in commercial egghouses(for lack of a better term) they keep 3 hens in a cage that is less then the size of the wingspan of 1 hen! And they have it slanted wire so the hens can never scratch like a chicken is supposed to do,they feed them hormones and antibiotics to pump up there egg laying capacity and they never even see the sun until that one day when they get slaughtered for makeing soup because they are no longer useful layers I raise chickens and we free range them(they have free run of the yard and then come to a nice lighted\heated barn for night times to prevent predators from eating them) and they are very inteligent and social creatures. This needs to be stopped it`s just too cruel. Along with goldfish bowls.
    only my plants outside are fed, and i'm not the one who does it so my hands blood (or whatever they have) free.
    my plants inside only catch what lives in the substrate, and that's their problem. everything else is fed with a mild fertilizer solution.

    humans do not need to eat animals, look at me. even the american cancer society says that eating meat increases risk of cancer. you can get 100% of every nutrient you need from plant material.

    hunting is cruel, assuming your a good shot, like you said it still HURTS. it is MURDER. if someone shot me in the head, it would only hurt for a few minutes, but does that make it right?

    "Yet in commercial egghouses(for lack of a better term) they keep 3 hens in a cage that is less then the size of the wingspan of 1 hen! And they have it slanted wire so the hens can never scratch like a chicken is supposed to do,they feed them hormones and antibiotics to pump up there egg laying capacity and they never even see the sun until that one day when they get slaughtered for makeing soup because they are no longer useful layers" that is all true, not to mention broiler hens are bred to be frankenfood. they are denied water , food, and become canibalistic. to remedy this, their beaks are chopped off.


    i thank you VERY much for freeranging your chickens, i really do. if you must have chickens, treat them like noah does instead of the way a factory farm would treat them [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] and i agree with goldfish bowls, too [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

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    Do you grow your own vegetables/fruit? If not then you still have blood on your hands.

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    sorry for not reading your post thoroughly.

    if one live trap doesn't work well, use multiple ones, fill in the holes with something they can't chew through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (ALLOSAURZ @ Oct. 11 2004,2:10)]Do you grow your own vegetables/fruit? If not then you still have blood on your hands.
    auctually, i do in the summer. but i mainly buy organic food from local markets.

    and blood will always be on our hands, but in that context in my post, i wasn't talking about food for me. the trick is to minimize the blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (JustLikeAPill @ Oct. 11 2004,11:08)]only my plants outside are fed, and i'm not the one who does it so my hands blood (or whatever they have) free.
    my plants inside only catch what lives in the substrate, and that's their problem. everything else is fed with a mild fertilizer solution.

    Oh no, they just ate some ants that went into the trap... this is murder!

    humans do not need to eat animals, look at me. even the american cancer society says that eating meat increases risk of cancer. you can get 100% of every nutrient you need from plant material.

    Vegetarian diets are very expensive. Again, we dont have 10 dollars for each meal we eat.

    hunting is cruel, assuming your a good shot, like you said it still HURTS. it is MURDER. if someone shot me in the head, it would only hurt for a few minutes, but does that make it right?

    Actually if you hunt correctly they die instantly. They dont hurt at all, not even 1/10th of a second. If you were shot in the head, would you be alive for 5 minutes in agony on the floor before you died? no indeed. Hunting isnt murder. These are ANIMALS we are talking about here... They arent HUMANS. They dont have the same level of AWARENESS as we do.

    "Yet in commercial egghouses(for lack of a better term) they keep 3 hens in a cage that is less then the size of the wingspan of 1 hen! And they have it slanted wire so the hens can never scratch like a chicken is supposed to do,they feed them hormones and antibiotics to pump up there egg laying capacity and they never even see the sun until that one day when they get slaughtered for makeing soup because they are no longer useful layers" that is all true, not to mention broiler hens are bred to be frankenfood. they are denied water , food, and become canibalistic. to remedy this, their beaks are chopped off.

    eek yea thats true, and wrong...
    i thank you VERY much for freeranging your chickens, i really do. if you must have chickens, treat them like noah does instead of the way a factory farm would treat them [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] and i agree with goldfish bowls, too [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (JustLikeAPill @ Oct. 11 2004,11:10)]sorry for not reading your post thoroughly.

    if one live trap doesn't work well, use multiple ones, fill in the holes with something they can't chew through.
    yea, they may not be able to chew through THOSE holes... but believe me theyll make more, everywhere...

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    Goldfish bowls are cruel cruel torture chambers *gasp* the fish suffocate slowly in those things the only thing they are good for is for a betta(if you keep you`re house warm) or a terrarium. And no Clint it isn`t murder murder involves killing some other human. Not animals,we were made by God to eat both plant and meat but if you can go by with just plant material fine Christ went with just plant material and fish all his life(I think Mary did too) but this wasn`t because eating meat is evil it`s because it`s a sacrafice to give up eating meat. Hmmm. what would you call me I don`t "eat" anything and my feeds are like a soy\milk base.........But thats not by choice if I could I`d eat a nice big lamburts all you can eat lamburt burger ummm.....I wish I was well again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (JustLikeAPill @ Oct. 11 2004,10:22)]and many hunters kill for sport oh and they have to kill them or else they'll die [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]
    I would like for you to respond to that, and many other questions you have left out... How convinient.

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