Ignoring the message, and just going on presentation, Kerry definately came off better...no question.
but..the message is more important, and Bush still has the best plan, by far.
not flip-flopping? you gotta be kidding..he so obviously flip-flopped several times in the debate!
He said that when Bush told us the reasons for invading Iraq, he misled us.
but Kerry himself agreed with the president then!
Kerry fully supported and believed in that data! and agreed that "saddam must go"!
So he basically said "When I agreed with that infoprmation, and supported the decision to invade, I was right...when president bush told us that infomation, and used it as a basis for invading, he was WRONG! even though I fully agreed with the president then..."
classic example of having it both ways..Kerry makes himself look right no matter which way he goes..and even when he does the EXACT same thing as Bush, he is right, bush is wrong..classic flip-flop!
no question about it..
So Kerry came off as a better speaker, but he still had no message..
he spoke very well, but about nothing..
Bush seemed more flustered, but his message is still there..
Scot