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    very good points Bruce. i realise what i brought up doesnt solve all problems but im a firm believer that if you arent going to atleast try to go tough your local governments or even if you just arent going to get involved at all you have no room to complain. and just voting doesnt count as "being involved" although it is a VERY good start. local enviromental problems in Montana..............well just last tuesday we voted on wiether or not we as a state were going to allow cyanide in the use of mining, specifically gold. i voted for the use of it and BEFORE you yell at me ill tell you why: #1 we are a poor state, our teachers are the poorest payed. to reallow mining means more money for the state. #2 we are one of 4 places in the world that outlawed the use of cyanide. one of the 3 places doesnt even have gold deposits. #3 the use of cyanide is MUCH safer than the use of some of the othe VERY noxious stuff that is still allowed under current laws. #4 there was the argument that the current law that we voted on last week provides anything new. and it doesnt. everything in it was availible 30 years ago but the law made it MANDITORY for the first time. with every built in saftey precoution they could think of. very lil of which was required under the old mining laws. #5 the mining companys were happy with these laws, they said they could profitably mine as long as gold stays above an average of $230 an ounce. it was win win for everyone BUT it failed because a bunch of ppl didnt want a gold mine on the Blackfoot river. now i had my doubts about that particular mine but there are several other areas that i dont believe there was an issue. so rather than protesting that particular mine which they could have done and won fairly easily they banned the whole works.

    i did say get involved with you Senators and Reps at a federal level. to think that the only way to protect our wildlands is by which president we elect is foolish and dangeous thinking because on alot of these issues your senators and Reps ultimatly have more power than the President. they are the ones who make the vast majority of the laws affecting the enviroment not the President. the President may set the tone but he is not the final word on the issue.

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    Check this site out, pretty interesting take on how we view the election results: it's all how you present the data!

    http://www.marktaw.com/culture....te.html

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    very cool map. thanks for the link. it shows what i thought. large population centers leaned more for Kerry and the more rural areas voted mainly Bush(general comment, not 100% accurate but close enough) my county was more for Kerry even though were as rural as it gets but thats because most native americans here vote for democrats reguardless of who is running. had Bush had a lil D by his name they would have voted for him to. politics has lil to do with it
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    I agree with you, the large metro areas voted primarily for kerry, and the more rural areas mostly for bush. There are many exceptions to this, as you indicate in your example regarding the native american votes, which are very interesting (look at southern texas!). What I think is most interesting though, is how purple the map really is: a single state is not 'all bush' or 'all kerry' as the maps we see on the news would have us think.

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    yep. like ive said since the begining niether candidate was very strong. it basically came down to who you hated more not who was so much better than the other. HOPEFULLY in 2008 there will be a REALLY good person running but im not going to hold my breath. the attack ads and all the BS is keeping the ppl we really need in office from running and thats the sad thing.
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    Only 55% of voting age people voted so, considering the total population, the actual results are (approximately):
    45% - None of the above
    29% - Bush
    26% - Kerry
    Bruce in CT

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    How about this for 2008. Arnold vs. Hillary. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif[/img]
    I know Arnold can't run but just for fun...who do you think would win?

    How about Dan Quale vs Ted Kennedy?

    Bill O'Reilley vs Al Gore?

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    Hillary was already president [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_n_32.gif[/img] dont care much for any of those ppl.
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