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    I'm also a firm believer in Evolution. I don't get the creationists' logic.
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    Firm evo here.

    Yes, many people somehow lump creation and eveolution together. The reason, as I've heard, is that if you are a young earth creationist (YEC, the earth is 6000 years old, and you beleive in the litteral word of the Bible), everything was created as it is. Eveolution would contradict this particular view....so then people start arguing over how it started...

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    I don't think that anyone can possibly firmly belive the bible and the theory of evolution fully at the same time. Unless they are have multiple-personality schizophrenia.
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    Evolution of life is simply not a hypothesis or a guess or belief: it is a theory. This is what many people don't get: in science a theory explains a group of facts or phenomena, and has been repeatedly tested, is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. For all intents and purposes, it is a fact: evolution occurs. I don't understand why many religious people are against it: evolution has nothing to do with how life started, just how it adapts to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (StifflerMichael @ Dec. 27 2004,3:55)]Evolution of life is simply not a hypothesis or a guess or belief: it is a theory. This is what many people don't get: in science a theory explains a group of facts or phenomena, and has been repeatedly tested, is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. For all intents and purposes, it is a fact: evolution occurs. I don't understand why many religious people are against it: evolution has nothing to do with how life started, just how it adapts to change.
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    Quote[/b] (Amateur_Expert @ Dec. 27 2004,2:42)]I don't think that anyone can possibly firmly belive the bible and the theory of evolution fully at the same time.
    Thats strange, because I do. I'm what is called an old earth creationist. for a better understanding Look Here

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    In a world where creatures can exchange genes and where mutations occur, where it's possible for some traits to be more conducive to survival than others, and where the environment is variable... I don't see how evolution wouldn't come into play. How could it be prevented under those circumstances?

    We've also demonstrated the power of evolution ourselves in selective breeding of animals. The "intelligence" of the evolutionary process is minutely above zero, and it takes forever to get things done in a very inefficient patchwork manner. Add human brainpower and a goal, and things speed up exponentially. I'm sure you haven't seen a chihuahua skeleton in a museum. It took us under 100,000 years (probably more like 50,000) to create all of these dog breeds out of wolves/coyotes/foxes/whatever (there's debate over the origins). Granted it isn't really the creation of an entirely new species, but for under a million years it's not bad at all.

    "A couple billion years" is very very easy to say... but our brains really aren't capable of grasping such a number. That's a long time. That's a long long long long time. A whole lot can happen in such a time.

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    Justin, ya beat me to it! I was following the topic along and was going to quote A.E. and say that me and "Zak" are two of the Born Again types that don't have a problem with what we humans perceive as evolution - as long as one accepts that God is the author of it all.

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