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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]bloody hell.
    Now we aren't arguing which is true, we're arguing which has better followers.
    then you wont mind it if i leave, arguments like that are pointless, inflamitory, and really not very nice. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_t_32.gif[/img] If Religous people and evolutionists didnt spend so much time trying to one-up the other on facts and just accepted eachothers veiws, reasons and opinions, wo would not have to have arguments like this thread in the first place and move on to better things.
    that makes no logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (TheAlphaWolf @ Dec. 30 2004,12:33)]well... you know what they say... it's the thought that counts. The church was only supporting that to prove christianity.. which isn't very scientific as someone explained before.
    Nobody said anything about any church anyway. What we said includes many religions (Ie. the middle east... it's mostly muslims vs. jews). don't be so paranoic.
    and yes... Darwin even wanted to be a minister or something, but then found that science is better.
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    Quote[/b] ]and i still dont believe it because there are way too many problems with evolution, espceally since the theory is moving to punctuated evolution, which would mean that the way things are going species should have likely started changing rapidly to adapt to the alterations humans have made to the enviroment.
    ok... give us problems.
    so I guess organisms should evolve to be able to eat plastic?
    and species are evolving because of humans.
    Viruses (which are technically not alive) evolve very fast- SARS being an example.
    Bacteria are becoming resistant to even the strongest antibiotics, dogs, cats, fish, PLANTS, have all been domesticated (well... changed into something not found in the wild anyway), pests like insects are becoming resistant to pesticides, etc...
    What I've found amazing all along is most of you seem to speak on religion as if you were experts. Yet it is ovious most of you don't have a clue about much of anything, and are simply regurgitating what you have been spoon fed last semester. Passing off the teaching of others as you're own thought is essentially plagerism.

    I've kept quiet because it was ovious you didn't understand what creationism even is. You don't know what it says, and oviously don't understant the different aspects of it.

    Other than the usual inadequate emotion filled rebuttle if you care to dissagree with what I'm saying......I challange you to sucessfully compare and contrast evolution as you understand it. I say as you understant it because so far you're compared apples to oranges. I'll give you this to start with. Creationism starts BEFORE evolution begins. To make it even easier
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    Have fun I hope to see some intelligent thought put in to this .
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    Oh yeah Here.

    This is from Berkeley, not some religious website. Like I said... Well I've said enough [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]because others here called religous people ignorent and evil, hae u forgotten?
    they have?
    ZAK, I love your link! I wish I had known about that site long ago.
    ... just making sure... I never said religion and evolution can't coexist. It is creationism and evolution that can't....
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    but... that site mentions nothing (not much anyway) about creationism...
    ah... to explain creationism: (NOT same as religion)
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    Quote[/b] ]Most creationists and creationologists today are either conservative Christians or orthodox Jews who believe that the Bible (Christian), or the Torah (Jewish), is accurate in its description of God's creation of the world and of life. They therefore believe the Bible when it says that the world, the stars, planets, and life were created over a short time (six ordinary 24-hour days). They also believe the Bible when it says that the first living things were created fully formed (that means the chicken was created before the egg: Genesis 1:20-22).

    Creationologists (including creation scientists) believe that most fossils are the result of the worldwide flood described in the book of Genesis, and that the earth's surface, mountains, and terrain we see today were basically shaped by that flood.
    http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/begin1.html
    That's from the only creatioinst site I know of that makes any sense. (not that I agree with them... obviously... but.. well you know what I mean)
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    While people are contributing links, I just remembered a website that should be on everyone's "bookshelf" if they're interested in these things:

    http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/

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    whoa! talk about a huge site!
    especially if you go to home... there are many branches of it. (reminds me of taxonomy.... lol)
    for example this one... 29+ evidences for macroevolution
    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs....ntogeny
    I didn't know dandelion flowers were vestigial! holy cow!
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    I'm reading through the site about Creationism you mentioned (http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/begin1.html) and so far the site I posted seems to address most if not all of the flaws in evolution... on first glance anyway... don't really have time right now to cross-reference all this stuff.

    It also mentions my dog breeding thing... d'oh. Thought I was being original... was just something I was thinking about, I don't think I ever read about it beforehand. Oh well.

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