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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]So why isn't there any creature that has features of both plants and animals or between humans and animals?
    first of all, humans ARE animals.
    secondly, there are creatures that are both fungus and animal like, and others that are algae and animal like.
    For example... euglenas are both animal and plant like. They can eat by endocytosis or they can photosynthesize. They can also move around like animals and yet they are green like plants.
    There are also fungus-like protists (slime molds) that move around but reproduce by spores and stuff.
    and there are animal-like protists (protozoans) which only have a single cell and act more like animals.
    They're a pain for taxonomists to categorize. Some people group them as plants, others as animals, others as fungus, etc...
    Same with the prehistoric humans. Some people consider homo erectus a human, and others consider it an ape. How much more "missing link" do you want?
    There are organisms that eat rocks by the way... but you can't expect animals to suddenly evolve like that. This is science, not science fiction. You will never have a turtle suddenly be born with wings, able to eat radioactive waste, and breathe without air.
    we're talking about the REAL world here people! Not every animal is fossilized and species don't just evolve into superman in two days!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]i would say to believe that these random atoms in a sterile enviroment coming to together to form well first amino acids then more complex protien strands takes as much faith as believe that a higher power created it. I mean conditions would have to be perfect for that to happen and still what would cause the atoms to want to for these primitive amino acids and protien strands.
    it's been proven that the conditions exist.
    Don't you know about that scientist that replicated the earth's environment a long long long time ago and then replicated lightning and created amino acids?
    You think that's only possible in a lab? well, many meteors that have come from space have amino acids in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (ktulu @ Dec. 31 2004,12:26)]i would say to believe that these random atoms in a sterile enviroment coming to together to form well first amino acids then more complex protien strands takes as much faith as believe that a higher power created it. I mean conditions would have to be perfect for that to happen and still what would cause the atoms to want to for these primitive amino acids and protien strands.
    Thats not true. There was an experiment conducted where a man recreated conditions as they where when the earth was a newborn. All the correct chemicals where put into a controlled environment, the process was catalyzed and the end result was RNA, you calling this guy god?

    darn you luis.. you posted first
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]It is just words with nothing concrete to back it up, just your own "faith" that it is true
    oh please. You can go out and touch fossils (I've seen and touched them). You can even just look at your own body and animals outside and see vestigial/homologous/analogous structures.
    Goosebumps, the muscles that allow you to wiggle your ears, body hair (some of it does have a purpuse but why do we have body hair on our little toe?)
    You can buy a chicken wing and see the vestigial claw there, You can compare the bodies of other organisms and you will see how they have the same bones, just the fact that you can do taxonomy shows how they evolved. You can't categorize rocks by kingdom phylum class order family genus species because they do not evolve!
    You can also see euglenia with a microscope (I've seen them... I have a microscope), you can see slime molds (I tried to keep one but it died :P) in compost piles, you just have to LOOK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Rubra @ Dec. 31 2004,5:49)]I only saw this post now. So why isn't there any creature that has features of both plants and animals or between humans and animals? Surely now that we have "evolved" into creatures more "fit" than any other organism on earth, plants and animals that we don't actually raise will slowly die off, and we will gain the ability to eat rocks...

    Peter
    hmmm..
    dont really know what you are talking about, but I can answer some of it..
    there are creatures that have both animal and plant characteristics..they still exist today.
    single cell organisms that are essentially "animals", and can move freely, but also contain chloroplasts and make some of their energy from sunlight!
    half animal, half plant..

    http://encarta.msn.com/media_4615177...lagellate.html



    and as for "between animals and humans" there are untold thousands of animals that are between animals and humans..
    millions probably..
    we have found fossils of hundreds of them.
    they are everywhere..
    I really dont understand how people can say there are "none"..
    the fossil record is full of them..

    I have no clue what are trying to say with the second half of your post..

    Scot

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]It is just words with nothing concrete to back it up, just your own "faith" that it is true
    It's not just words, unlike the bible, you can experiment and prove. a bunch of lunatics could of written it for all you know.
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    and yet... do you have ANY proof ANYTHING like we have for evolution? can you go out and ask god if he created the animals how they are? no. That is why evoluton is scientific. Because you DO have proof and you can go out and touch/experiment with it. You can drasticaly change species (even make subspecies in just a couple thosuand years) like cultivars of plants and varieties and you can experiment with bacteria and fruit flies.
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    If you just want to say that you believe the bible and that's why you don't believe in evolution then fine but please don't go around saying there is no proof or saying things like saying that there are gaps in the fossil record because OF COURSE there will be! not all organisms fossilize and we haven't found all the fossils you know. Thousands of fossils and new species are found every day.
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    Quote[/b] ]which could very easily just be exterme anomolies in the human form.
    What a coincidence those anomolies go in order from the apes to the humans... and what a coincidence that those anomolies don't happen today.
    Also what a coincidence that MOST organisms are like that! it's not just humans that we can trace, it's horses and whales and many others!
    I'm sure it's also a geologic process that makes fossils too. or maybe it's the devil. Yes... that's it...
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