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    Blotchy evidence-as in large gaps in the fossil record(now explained by some kind of punctuated equilibrium in which case some species should have evolved into something totally new and different within the time of human history). Only reptile-bird seems to have an inbetween and IMHO after reading about it I think it is a bird-and not a bird-dinosaur...some birds had teeth later on too.
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Blotchy evidence-as in large gaps in the fossil record(now explained by some kind of punctuated equilibrium in which case some species should have evolved into something totally new and different within the time of human history).
    oh that. Well that's to be expected. The conditions for fossilization are so rare that trying to find specific fossils probably won't give you much results.
    I really don't know much about individual fossils but I'm searching..
    anyone want to read this and tell us if that's good enough?
    LOL... you sure cured my hyperness :P
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    ah... from reptile to mammal- http://www.gcssepm.org/special/cuffey_05.htm
    another looooong thing to read- http://www.vuletic.com/hume/cefec/5.html#5.1
    from amphibians to reptiles- Seymouria is one,
    from reptiles to mammals- Probelesodon and Massetognathus
    between fish and amphibians- Eusthenopteron

    but there are more transitional fossils of horses and humans and from certain reptiles to others, etc...
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    Fine Alpha! Just keep giving me this info. I have work to do and things to look into for a long time. Now, go back to your vestigal rambling!!!! LOLOL!!!!
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    I know it was discussed before but how do creationists explain the story of the flood and noah's ark?
    They say if you play a Microsoft CD backwards, you hear satanic messages. Thats nothing, cause if you play it forwards, it installs Windows.

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    LOL. Hey, I've had to read a lot of this stuff too!
    Many of the anti-evolution arguments are simple and sound good at first but It takes a while to debunk :P
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    Everybody take a break! Some of us were busy today and are trying to catch up.

    Anyway it's no longer a debate between evolution and creation. It seems to have become a battle between evolution and some form of phylogenetic agnosticism. In case no one has ever used that phrase before, I hereby patent it and will make my fortune in licensing fees. Phylogenesis, by the way, is the origin of a species. Anyway, there's no point trying to prove something to an agnostic.

    Evolution cannot be proved. Even if we observe the origin of a new species tomorrow and film it and dissect it and gene sequence it and do everything it might take to convince everybody speciation happened, it doesn't prove humans evolved from something else. I'm a geologist and am comfortable with inference being science, but some people can't accept something if they didn't see it happen or can't duplicate it in a lab. That kind of proof is possible in some sciences, but impossible in others.

    To all sides in the debate - never try to teach a pig to sing, it only wastes your time and annoys the pig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ] It seems to have become a battle between evolution and some form of phylogenetic agnosticism
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Anyway, there's no point trying to prove something to an agnostic.
    HEY! I'm an agnostic!!!
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