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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Until you show me WHY that proves evolution, that makes me lean toward creationism. Didn't mammal evolve from fish or something... I've heard that humans have evolved from numerous things(I don't remember what they were but it still makes me lean more toward creationism). I mean if mammals evolved from another creature(ae reptiles, aren't they the ones that are like millions or is it billions of years old?), wouldn't one or something still have even one scale(dry... fish have scales but they lean toward being "slimy") or something that ONLY reptiles have? Please explain? I'm getting lost but hey it's helped me "trust" creationism more.
    here's how the evidence says it happened.
    (do you want the whole thing from bacteria? that takes more explaining)
    first there were fish. Those fish then became amphibians. amphibians then became reptiles. Reptiles then branched to both birds (most bird feet except for owls have scales... and feathers are made out of the same material as scales.. and some birds like hoatzins and ostriches, emus, chickens, etc. have claws on their wings) and mammals (again, hair is made out of the same material scales are made out of, etc)
    That proves evolution because you can see how they all became from a common ancestor. For example whales could have fins with spikes (or rays or whatever you call them...) like fish have, but instead they have "hands". There are carpals and metacarpals and phalangees (sp? looks horrible too) just like other mammals have.
    humans are apes. apes came from primates...
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    Quote[/b] ]the broadbill family of birds from the aso-pacific islands have 2 extra neck vertebrates
    ah ok thanks!
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    "every faith in the world is based on fabrication. That is the definition of faith - the acceptance of that which we imagine to be true, that which we cannot prove. Every religion describes God through metaphor, allegory, and exaggeration, from the early Egyptians through modern Sunday school. Metaphors are a way to help our minds process the unprocessible. The problems arise when we begin to believe literally in our own metaphors"
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
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    Until you show me WHY that proves evolution, that makes me lean toward creationism. Didn't mammal evolve from fish or something... I've heard that humans have evolved from numerous things(I don't remember what they were but it still makes me lean more toward creationism). I mean if mammals evolved from another creature(ae reptiles, aren't they the ones that are like millions or is it billions of years old?), wouldn't one or something still have even one scale(dry... fish have scales but they lean toward being "slimy") or something that ONLY reptiles have? Please explain? I'm getting lost but hey it's helped me "trust" creationism more.
    i dunno where you heard that but fish<anphibians<reptiles, birds and mammals split from reptiles. in effect, hair and feathers were present in the (different) ancestor groups of both mammals and birds. The mammal-like reptiles had something similar to hair (modified scale) and some dinos, from wich birds came from, had feathers. t-rex may have even had feathers when young. feathers and hair are the traits of birds and mammals today because the preceeding ancestors with those qualities proved less adaptable and died out
    that makes no logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]the broadbill family of birds from the aso-pacific islands have 2 extra neck vertebrates
    and the fact that you can say the FAMILY of birds (not in different families... but the whole entire family of those birds... and no other family[?]) has 2 extra neck vertebrae also points to common ancestors.
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    so ALL the miracles that have been performed throughout history would be magic? Cause since faith is believing in something that is not there, all those who claim to do it in the name of (name). They are all fakes? Wow... that's really sad, I really like Jesus. But since He was God and God is a fabrication, he was not there and all the people that claimed He was God and saw Him. They were either raving lunatics or liars. Hmm my entire world has been shattered.

    Wouldn't it be sad if I really believed that and you actually did that to me? LOL but really examine my statement above. Hmm I'm getting to where I hate the word metaphor LOL
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    12 new pages in 2 days?!!!!!!! I give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Wesley @ Jan. 03 2005,8:37)]so ALL the miracles that have been performed throughout history would be magic?
    All the alledged miracles. There is alot about the bible and religion that is not know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ] i dunno where you heard that but fish<anphibians<reptiles, birds and mammals split from reptiles.
    Well, I've heard it from many different places(a couple mueseums(sp) and so forth). I guess that since the theory is an everchanging theory(it seems all theories/laws/etc are ever changing now adays), it has changed over the years. But anyway, on with the discussion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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