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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Rubra @ Jan. 08 2005,8:45)]It was quite possible to build an ark, even if it took years in the making.
    A study was done and the size of the ark would make it unfloatable and it would take an incredible long time to make even with many people and all the technology we have today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Rubra @ Jan. 08 2005,8:45)]I also just learned that the original hebrew word for beast (as in "every beast") most likely referrs to land-dwelling vertebrates. Noah sure didn't have the resources to find all the animals - God did.
    Even if he did find all of them there wouldnt be a large enough ark to fit all of them in that would float.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Rubra @ Jan. 08 2005,8:45)]As for Noah not being in the history books, that's because the history books don't want people complaining as soon as they add anything "religious". The fact is that the old testament is the book of ancient Jewish history.
    I know alot of things about the old testament. If you are saying that something is said about noah's ark in the old testament that is different from the new testament i dont know it yet. In the global history book we study there is a full chapter on Jesus. I don't think that's the issue.
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    Quote[/b] (Amateur_Expert @ Jan. 08 2005,9:21)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Rubra @ Jan. 08 2005,8:45)]It was quite possible to build an ark, even if it took years in the making.
    A study was done and the size of the ark would make it unfloatable and it would take an incredible long time to make even with many people and all the technology we have today.
    That, and it would've been impossible to house two of every animal and have them surivive. The environment would've likely killed many, and the carnivores would've eaten all the herbivores (or starved).

    And even then, it would've been impossible for many animals to cross entire continents and oceans, particularly those that can't swim. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_n_32.gif[/img]

    Put me in the evolution column.
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    Quote[/b] ]It's not just Christians who beleive in the Flood. Almost every single culture in the world has stories of a great flood that covered the earth. Coincidence?
    These people didn't have satellite photos, mass media, global communication... they didn't even know the earth was round, or how massive it actually was. They lived in an entirely different intellectual environment and people today are constantly forgetting that fact. The amount of knowledge about the world we're using so casually to form our conclusions here would be beyond inconceivable to them. Every major disaster to a primitive isolated culture is a "global" one.

    And I'm sure the stories those other cultures have (I'm betting it's more than just a few) about history continuing along just fine through the alleged time of the flood will be conveniently overlooked, as well as whether or not the timelines of all those flood stories even remotely coincide.

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    Quote[/b] ]As for Noah not being in the history books, that's because the history books don't want people complaining as soon as they add anything "religious". The fact is that the old testament is the book of ancient Jewish history.
    Separation of church and state is a brand spanking new development in human society. Much if not most of history shows religion in charge of (or at least guiding/corrupting) what gets taught to people. I would think you wouldn't be able to find Jesus in a history book if "religiousness" is all it takes for something to get written out.

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    Quote[/b] ]And it wasn't a matter of God breaking the laws of nature, rather, he was using nature to do what he wanted.
    As Alpha said, they were most certainly broken.

    This thread is long enough without adding the Noah stuff to it too. It's a total waste of time talking science to people who can actually believe in a literal flood, because "God intervened" is universally applicable to any of their claims, rendering science irrelevant and useless (unless they think they can use it selectively to back up a claim). I say we make our way back to evolution/creationism, if there's even anything left to say at this point. I think just about everyone here already knows which information they're giving credence to and which they're ignoring.

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    But the flood is integral to the claims of young earth creationists. Some are arguing from that perspective, so it's relevant. I guess the intelligent design crowd doesn't need a biblical flood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (endparenthesis @ Jan. 09 2005,11:45)]And I'm sure the stories those other cultures have (I'm betting it's more than just a few) about history continuing along just fine through the alleged time of the flood will be conveniently overlooked, as well as whether or not the timelines of all those flood stories even remotely coincide.
    actully yes many cultures do have a flood story and it usally ends with the greater powers recreating everything or one or two survivors restarting the population of the world.

    As for the women not having the same political rights as men first off yes there are some cultures where they do, there are quite a few indgineous(i cant spell that word) cultures in Africa who have women as a central part of their political system.

    ps: as a side note please do not refer to cultures you do not understand as primitive, it is offensive and if you were to actully study most of there cultures that people call "primitive" you would find them to be much more culturally advanced than you believe.
    "We're terrible animals. I think that the Earth's immune system is trying to get rid of us, as well it should." - Kurt Vonnegut

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    Being a Christian myself, I think recent creationists totally miss the point with the flood. Even in Roman times, the whole world to them meant the empire and lands beyond, but nothing on the kind of scale the world is known today.

    The obvious (to me) explanation for the world wise flood was the end of the last ice age when sea levels rose by 300m. Think about it. There are flooded cities off the coast of India, there are villages and towns below the present Black Sea. People would have been living near or on coasts and arable farming would have been on the coastal plains, not at altitude. Catastrophic floods all over the Indian sub continent and also what is present day Iraq and Iran (where the flood narritive came from) left a 1 metre deep layer of sediment. Evidence for this can be seen at Ur.

    check out this

    http://www.saintaidans.org/sci_theo/...NoahsFlood.htm



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