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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Mike King @ Jan. 09 2005,1:39)]Being a Christian myself, I think recent creationists totally miss the point with the flood. Even in Roman times, the whole world to them meant the empire and lands beyond, but nothing on the kind of scale the world is known today.
    So the flood didn't flood the whole world? Why the ark? Why didn't god tell them to go somewhere else while it was flooded? Why did every single animal need to be saved?
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    Quote[/b] (Mike King @ Jan. 09 2005,1:39)]The obvious (to me) explanation for the world wise flood was the end of the last ice age when sea levels rose by 300m. Think about it. There are flooded cities off the coast of India, there are villages and towns below the present Black Sea. People would have been living near or on coasts and arable farming would have been on the coastal plains, not at altitude. Catastrophic floods all over the Indian sub continent and also what is present day Iraq and Iran (where the flood narritive came from) left a 1 metre deep layer of sediment. Evidence for this can be seen at Ur.
    Your interpretation. Thats the thing with the bible, everyone has a different one.
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    Very true AE, but that is where the flood story originated. But the last Ice age finished about 12,000 years ago and the story has a definated source from Babylonian culture. But for me, this makes the most sense.

    BTW, the last ice age DID flood the whole world in a sense, sea levels rose all over the globe.
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    Quote[/b] (ktulu @ Jan. 09 2005,1:16)]ps: as a side note please do not refer to cultures you do not understand as primitive, it is offensive and if you were to actully study most of there cultures that people call "primitive" you would find them to be much more culturally advanced than you believe.
    Hmm... don't want to risk offending people who've been dead for thousands of years.

    How about archaic... more PC?

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    Quote[/b] (endparenthesis @ Jan. 09 2005,5:45)]
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    Quote[/b] ]It's not just Christians who beleive in the Flood. Almost every single culture in the world has stories of a great flood that covered the earth. Coincidence?
    These people didn't have satellite photos, mass media, global communication... they didn't even know the earth was round, or how massive it actually was. They lived in an entirely different intellectual environment and people today are constantly forgetting that fact. The amount of knowledge about the world we're using so casually to form our conclusions here would be beyond inconceivable to them. Every major disaster to a primitive isolated culture is a "global" one.
    The bible does state that the world is round and is suspended in nothing. Now...how did they know that?
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    Ancient Greeks knew the Earth is spherical (it almost is) and Eratosthenes of Syrene calculated its size ~200 BC.
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    Quote[/b] (Nflytrap @ Jan. 09 2005,6:34)]The bible does state that the world is round and is suspended in nothing. Now...how did they know that?
    People like Aristotle figured that out just by observing the lunar eclipse. Unfortunately not everyone bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (endparenthesis @ Jan. 09 2005,7:09)]People like Aristotle figured that out just by observing the lunar eclipse. Unfortunately not everyone bought it.
    Maybe they didn't have the money.
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