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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (endparenthesis @ Jan. 09 2005,5:45)]This thread is long enough without adding the Noah stuff to it too. It's a total waste of time talking science to people who can actually believe in a literal flood, because "God intervened" is universally applicable to any of their claims, rendering science irrelevant and useless (unless they think they can use it selectively to back up a claim). I say we make our way back to evolution/creationism, if there's even anything left to say at this point. I think just about everyone here already knows which information they're giving credence to and which they're ignoring.
    Couldn't of said it better myself... added to the fact that the argument is already allowing the creationists to support their argument with the bible, with in itself isn't scientific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (endparenthesis @ Jan. 09 2005,11:41)]
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    Quote[/b] (ktulu @ Jan. 09 2005,1:16)]ps: as a side note please do not refer to cultures you do not understand as primitive, it is offensive and if you were to actully study most of there cultures that people call "primitive" you would find them to be much more culturally advanced than you believe.
    Hmm... don't want to risk offending people who've been dead for thousands of years.

    How about archaic... more PC?
    hey, not every culture talked about is necessarily not around any more, Maya, still Mayan people around some of whom still practice the religion. many other cultures whos story of the flood are still around or else how did we get them? and archaic isnt really any better because you are still assigning them a label which puts them on a hiearchy, why not call them other cultures, non-western culture, or even go so far as to learn the name of the culture and use that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]BTW, the last ice age DID flood the whole world in a sense, sea levels rose all over the globe.
    but not like the bible says it (Ie. the waters rising to the highest peaks)
    so at least for me that's even less credibility for the bible. If the magnificent flood story about a flood that covered the whole entire earth and these people had to build a giant enormous ark and put two of every *land* animals there for forty days and forty nights can be explained as easily as that... well then what about the other parts of the bible?
    (LOL... I bet you didn't mean what you said to be interpreted like this now did ya?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]actully yes many cultures do have a flood story and it usally ends with the greater powers recreating everything or one or two survivors restarting the population of the world.
    no... they dont. thats a gross gereralization
    that makes no logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Finch @ Jan. 10 2005,2:13)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]actully yes many cultures do have a flood story and it usally ends with the greater powers recreating everything or one or two survivors restarting the population of the world.
    no... they dont. thats a gross gereralization
    Finch, hes right.
    The Aztecs had a theory that the world is destroyed and recreated every few hundered years(the next one is due to happen at about 2048)
    Indian religions preach in around 7 or so gods.
    One of them, Shiva, keeps the earth spinning, eventually destroying it before putting it back together.


    O.K creationists and belivers in Noahs ark, explain this:

    If only land animals came abord, then why are there insects in the world? No insects came aboard, just land animals.
    And what about the plants?
    I dont recall hearing a story about plants going aboard.
    No plants=no oxygen. no oxygen=no life

    And why are there black and Asian(no offence intended whatsoever) in the world if Noah and his family were white and looked like ordinary English and American people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]And what about the plants?
    I dont recall hearing a story about plants going aboard.
    No plants=no oxygen. no oxygen=no life
    Well, a fair bit of the world's oxygen also comes from microscopic plant life in the oceans, and likely would've sustained the planet for a fair bit with just Noah and his crew. Of course, a flood that huge would've destroyed every land plant, thusly leaving the animals SOL when returning to their home and leaving the world a barren wasteland.
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    Plants and insects both happen to have their own methods of survival. Plants have the amazing ability to produce seed, which in all cases I can think of can survive at least 44 days. Insects lay eggs, which normally hatch after anything from days to weeks, and can lay dormant for long periods of time if kept cold (ie. in cold water). Other insects could survive as nymphs underground. I personally am not sure quite how they all survived, but it would make an interesting study!

    As for separate races, this site I found explains it much better than I can:

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]If the magnificent flood story about a flood that covered the whole entire earth and these people had to build a giant enormous ark and put two of every *land* animals there for forty days and forty nights can be explained as easily as that... well then what about the other parts of the bible?
    Go ahead and read it. Most of it its pretty self-explanatory.

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    You know, I think I mentioned this earlier....But ALL of the arguments used here on both side (and I mean ALL) have been examined to a large degree here:
    evo/creat debate

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