[b said:Quote[/b] ]My mind is open to the logical.
Then your mind is not open. Your mind is "open" to what you allow yourself to perceive as logical- if you refuse to open your eyes to something because you don't believe it exists, how will you ever see what's beyond yourself? Even if there is nothing, would it really hurt to look?
Don't you dare lump people in to a stereotype like that. There's something that I want you to notice, on this thread there are a few people, and I'm including you in this statement, AE, that are open to what you WANT to be open to, and it seems like those people have been people who've convinced themselves that evolution is where it's at. Furthermore, I've noticed that many imbetweeners and folks with religous background have been more open to BOTH ideas. Look, the thing is that you are telling people to open up their eyes and smell the fossil record, trying to convince them that your ideas and only your ideas are right. Now, the few of you that this pertains to, you need to play a bit more nicely, ok?? I'm not saying "don't argument what you believe", but I'm saying don't be militant in judging other people and/or their beliefs, it'll make this a much more informative a fun topic, and if some of the trolling that's been going on keeps up, then I'm not sure how ong we can keep this thread from getting locked.[b said:Quote[/b] ]No. Of course you'd say that.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]"To me believing something you can't see made everything against all the proof your other human cohorts are showing you (that you can see for yourself if you just open your eyes!!!) is not normal."
My friend, I'd like to give you a pat on the back and explain this to you in a calm voice, but apparently I'll need to try to keep it to explaining in writing... You are telling me, and others that we don't have our eyes open because we aren't athiests. You are no longer making comments on the origin of life on this planet, but militantly questioning people and their faith. Now, I want you to try something really hard, as I'm trying really hard to explain it and keep it nice; you see it is unfair of you to claim that others do not have their eyes open because of their beliefs. Look, I believe firmly in evolution, but I also have religious ties that I have chosen to make despite my affinity for science. See, you are telling people who hold belief in both that they need to "open our eyes". Now, it just so happens that myself and my "cohorts", my partners in crime *wink*, I'm sure will agree that you are being a little extreme. I'm not sure about the earlier pages, but no one is trying to impress on you that there is God, only God, and that evolution is a bunch of hooey. Though, you are not doing us this same service, and I, on the behalf of myself and others who are more religiously sesitive would ask you to please take a little more consideration in what you say. No one is being agressive towards your ideas, so please, settle down a little.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]It's open to things that can be proven with fact. That i can see or touch or test or something, so i can see are real. That's what im open to.
You see, if you keep your eyes closed to what others think, then you can't see what they do. You wont see miracles that other people do because you wont let yourself, because you've written in stone for yourself that you are right, and nothing besides what you believe right here, right now, could be right. Through my faith I can see something different than you, I don't have a hyper-cool different reality, but I percieve things differently. As you have seen, I'm not a religious zealot either -I don't think we have any of those here...- and I have to reason to want to trick you, but if you open yourself to what other's believe, then you can get a lot more out of things. Don't you worry, I'm not being biased, I'd say the same thing to anyone who posted agressive "God is teh roxerz!!!1" posts as well.
So, to sum things up, I'm not asking anyone to have a religious conversion, to suddenly give up their life and devote it to God, religion, or the studies therof, but simply to try to see things in the light that others do and to maintain a level of respect. Thank you. And thank you brisco225, excellent points and it's good to heav some freash me- uhh, more oppinions here