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    NepG,
    Do you know those things? You're right I don't and I can't think of anyone I know who is likely to besides my wife. She has the thing for correcting peoples English, strange how we ended up together. I am horrible with language arts.
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    Quite, frankly I know very few out of what I listed in the original post Alphawolf quoted, its just that my French teacher is drilling this into our head for our own good, so the ones that go to college won't look like idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]and Latinos are Latin Americans which typically speak Spanish and English depending. So what? If they speak Spanish then they are included unless of course they are English speaking or at least attempting.

    Don't start with political crap! BTW if you're gonna quote then make a comment about it qoute the whole darn phrase or paragraph thats relevant
    so it's ok to call you english just because you speak english? it's NOT political crap.
    I did quote everything that was relevant. he said spanish people will be the majority. They will not.
    and could you quote what you're replying to? I've got no clue who or what you're talking about in the other parts of your reply.
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]I don't and won't accept anyone not being able to learn English in America. If you want to then you will and if you don't care then you probably won't.
    many people don't have the time or the money to learn english.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Do you live in the country? I have to skim through Spanish to read darn near anything anymore.
    i hav no idea what ur talking about

    um perhaps i live in another country and am not awaere of it
    that makes no logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Accomodate them? Why? Do other countries accomodate people with little lingual and cultural knowledge?
    Every foreign country that I have been in has been very good at accommodate English. The best was Belgium. Most of the people there knew at least a little English. They are very friendly people too.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]I'd rather learn Russian. Way easier to learn and funner to speak [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
    Maybe you should learn proper English first. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    The thread is long and i don't feel like reading through the whole thing so i'll assume the last 4 pages are redundant [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_n_32.gif[/img]

    I don't think its ok for ANYONE to be forced to learn anything because well no one wants anything forced upon them. Schools making it a requirement for children to learn spanish or any other language might seem wrong but schools also "force" kids to study math, english, etc (among the other mandatory studies). So i see spanish as just another requirement. It's sort of like you saying "what do you think of forced math teaching in schools" or something. I don't see the big deal. Maybe the people that oppose it have some sort of "dislike" against the spanish language, i don't know nor am i to imply, but i don't see why it is a bad thing. Another language is always good (some say you count for 2 people if you know 2 languages and they are probably right) it can't do a child anything but good to learn it.
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    AlphaWolf,
    I didn't say they are Spanish because they speak it. I said that if they only speak spanish and live here then this conversation is about them, no matter what country of origin. Actually I would feel the same about any language but spanish is the problem here since I rarely run across other languages in public.
    Ok, after flipping back to page 5. Altrade said that spanish is the next biggest language next to english and that they will outnumber us in 10 yrs. So we might as well get used to it and learn spanish. Soooooooooo I replied that is like saying if we invade another country and outnumber them then they should just get used to it and start speaking english. Might I also add that i am the first to say I am confused as to why soo many other countries speak english. I see no need for them to unless they want to. While it may be true that they don't know how to go about learning or are short on money, I am was a ghetto kid and no one is gonna help me further my education, I have very poor english skills and it is my native tongue. WHERE THERE IS A WILL, THERE IS A WAY.
    If you read Coppers post you'll see that she explains exactly what I have said i have a problem with. Perhaps I mis-judged when I rear-umed that this spanish thing is everywhere. Maybe it is not.
    Finch ,
    I wasn't talking to you when i said that. I was being a smart*ss.
    Ozzy,
    Many countries have vast numbers of citizens who speak english and may or may not be helpful to new commers. I did not mean every country. However many of the poorer countries that immigrants are coming from are like what i described or can be.

    Amateur,
    I don't wholly agree but well said anyway. I guess in some sense it is relatable. I do agree that the more languages you speak not only the better off you are but probably more likely to have higher self esteem as well. I just think that if you move to another country it is respectful to learn the language. I am not saying that anyone should give up their cultures, religions, or languages, just learn mine if you want to live with me. I would do the same if I lived with you. I also agree that kids should have a second language mandatory in school. It should be for intelligent purposes not to accomodate the lazy, their should be a choice of languages or none at all.

    Just for a political moment,
    Hey if I have to give every little group a voice for what they do or don't like about my ways then shouldn't it be a 2 way street?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (nepenthes gracilis @ Feb. 20 2005,7:28)]... its just that my French teacher is drilling this into our head for our own good, so the ones that go to college won't look like idiots.
    Unfortunately, unless uou move to New Orleans or hang just below Quebec, (as you are) Spanish would have been the more practical choice. It has only recently come in handy for me.

    English, as Greek was in the ancient worls, is the international language. someday, should America do as the Greeks and Romans have, anther dominant culture, with their language, will have (Ooh, future conditional tense!) replaced in English.

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