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    and ANYWAY... no matter what happens with terri, she'd have to watch herself die sooner or later. Maybe since she's in a PVS she is constantly watching herself since her "soul" is gone already.

    but of course I don't believe in that.
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    You miss the point. You say they should kill her by lethal injection. Kill being the operative word. It would be murder and not allowing one to just die because they can not function. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying what was done was right (or wrong) I am just explaining the lethal injection problem. They can not assist her in her death because they do not know her wishes. If she could make her wishes known this whole thing would be mute. So the can not inject her and make it quick. She will not know. It is a very tough decision. You have to feel for all sides. The mother and father hold out hope, but her husband, who has remained her husband for the fifteen years that she has been in coma has given up hope and believes that this would be better for his wife. That is a lot of love on both sides. Both sides are trying to do what is best. It's a heart breaker really.
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    Yeah, politics can be very stupid. People don't understand that Killing isn't bad. It's why/how you do it that matters. They should allow killing for those kinds of situations that justify it. That way there would be less suffering (although nobody's sure if terri will suffer... but I'm sure some people that have suffered have been killed by removing the tube)
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    What an awful case this is. Unfortunately, Terri's cerebral cortex is completely gone as evidenced by the cat scans. She is never coming back, and has no conscious thought.

    However, society has not yet really confronted what will be a more and more common situation as we are able to keep people alive hooked to tubes for longer and longer. The ethical issues are monumental, and so infused with subjective moral importance that there are strong feelings on both sides.

    And the bottom line is that there are no "happy" endings in cases like this. I think they're doing the right thing, as the case has been through every court proceeding possible, and it's time to let the system work. The law says that the guardian (her husband) has the call, and the court agreed with his statement that she didn't want to "live" this way. In many ways it's an intensely private matter, so I think we should let them deal with it the way they wish to. While her parents have strong feelings, they are not her guardian. She chose her guardian when she chose to marry her husband.

    Besides, I know I wouldn't want to live like that.

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    I am a bit learry as to the motives of the husband considering that he has had a mistress since before she went into a catatonic or whatever state. He still remains with this mistress and has children with her and has been denied marriage until his current wife dies.

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    I may be wrong but you don't seem to have ever HAD to watch a human die over an extended period of suffering.

    IN most cases I would agree with the court and the husband issue but in his case I think it is selfishness that is behind is actions. Though I personally have already made it known on paper and in words to my wife and family that I am under no circumstances to be kept artificially. Dehydration and starvation are intensely gruesome to watch beginning to end.

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    I think many times in life morals and law stand on opposite sides of the fence and you must decide; Do you fear a judge or THE JUDGE. If you have no metaphorical judge then you have no worry.

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    you're right. I haven't seen it. Have you?
    or have you seen someone for YEARS (hey... i'm 16... 15 out of those 16 years she has been like that. almost my whole life!!!! my whole life just there doing nothing. just waiting for death.) go through that?
    I would rather be burned to death if I was like that than spend my entire lifetime (minus one year... which I don't remember anyway. my earliest memory is when I was three) in that state.
    and she said to her husband she'd rather starve/dehydrate than live like that too. Yet there she is... and she has been for 15 out of my 16 years of life. That is really hard for me to comprehend... spending 15 years just lying there!
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    Quote[/b] (Copper @ Mar. 18 2005,6:21)]You miss the point. You say they should kill her by lethal injection. Kill being the operative word. It would be murder and not allowing one to just die because they can not function. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying what was right (or wrong) I am just explaining the lethal injection problem. They can not assist her in her death because they do not know her wishes. If she could make her wishes known this whole thing would be mute. So the can not inject her and make it quick. She will not know. It is a very tough decision. You have to feel for all sides. The mother and father hold out hope, but her husband, who has remained her husband for the fifteen years that she has been in coma has given up hope and believes that this would be better for his wife. That is a lot of love on both sides. Both sides are trying to do what is best. It's a heart breaker really.
    The husband just wants the money.. He goes to court to get like a million dollars to take care of her, and then when granted the money he wants to kill her.. why? For the money. This battle has been going on for a decade now. At least, from what I know.

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