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    he has spent 10 years trying and he has spent tons of money on it too. I don't think he's doing this because of the money. Besides, even if he was that doesn't change the situation. I would still rather her tube be removed than her being like that. It's not about the husband.
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    virtually all the money he has received has gon into legal matters to have it removed, theres verry little of it left
    that makes no logic

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    How about the houss calling up suppenas in a latch ditched attempt?
    that makes no logic

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    I have seen a starvation (I'd rather not go into details). No, I haven't witnessed a 15 yr vegative state. I personally would want death too, I just question the husbands motives. I think lethal injection or soldiers death is the way to go.

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    This is obviously a tremendously emotionally charged case, there are fuzzy aspects to the husbands motivations, which is why this has drawn on so long, and of course, the parents are blinded by grief and love.


    Quite Simply though, as was said, the cognitive portion of her brain no longer exists, you can hope and pray for a miracle all you want, but I think we can all agree, miracles are long shots (or they wouldn't be miracles.). We have artifically extended this womans life through technology, it's IMO, a case where technology has done something bad for us rather than good. I think this woman left her body long long ago and I doubt that wherever she is, what happens to the husk on that bed is of little consequence to her, it was after all, only a vessel for a time in her own belief system.

    As far as making euthenasia legal, I have to say I am still against that. it is one thing to take a person of a respirator or feeding tube, it is something else entirely. Let me clarify, in Terri's case, letting her body fail is horrible, but neccessary, There are probably quite a few people who could flip a switch and actively pump her body full of poisons, but I am not one of them, I would be one of those wondering the rest of my life if I snuffed out a miracle before it could happen. But, in all honesty terri is not coming back, so letting her go is one thing.

    however, take the case of a man wracked with a horrible, painful cancer that is destryoing him from the inside, he is fully awake, alert, and cognitive. Does he have a right to have someone kill him? Where does the right to have your life taken begin and end? What if the cure for his cancer is only a few days away, what a sad thing his loss would be. more importantly, legally sanctioning suicide (which is what euthenasia is) quite simply puts foot firmly on a slipperly slope where they sanctity of life becomes lessened.

    If I were the man in the above example, I would never ever give in. I would fight death to my last breath and hold on to the chance to live my life with every ounce of strength, scraping and scrabbling against the tide beyond the poing of bloody fingers and tattered flesh.. Life is Important, and how you leave this one, is important in how you enter the next one. Terri really didn't have a choice in the matter, her life was stolen from her long ago, she's been dead since the day she became a vegetable, but if you ARE cognitive... you fight. period. The reason you won't see a law sanctioning this, is that everyone draws the line in a different place, no one really can define where the slope begins, and where your right to end your life begins.

    Anyhow, I hope Terri is already at peace, and if not, I hope she will be soon.
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    Between keeping her on life support and letting her starve, I support the latter more, but I still think it's more humane through euthanasia. If I were the person to actually either cut her life support off and let her starve or euthanize her, I would feel much better with the euthanasia, because that's how I'd rather go. I'd take any quick death over dying of starvation and dehydration for that long. I think wanting a quick, painless death of any kind for someone who has no chance of survival is alot more caring towards human life than letting them slowly and (possibly) painfully die.
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    I will have to disagree with most of what Alpha has said. In October my best friend and loyal compainon dies of Kidney failure. The effect was virtually the same as stavation in a way. His heart and most internal systems were failing and so not enough blood was pumping excpt to keep him barely alive. You cannot know the pain the rest of us were in. He of course was too far gone. But that is my reason fo supporting euthinasia. Many of us went practically insane waiting. As for your point when someone you loves dies you know it, the instant their "soul" seperates from their body. I cannot describe it but you will know when you have to witness someone you love die from an extended illness. Which I hope never has to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ] His heart and most internal systems were failing and so not enough blood was pumping excpt to keep him barely alive. You cannot know the pain the rest of us were in. He of course was too far gone. But that is my reason fo supporting euthinasia.
    I'm sorry for your friend but was he still concious? Terri isn't. She's like a vegetable just lying there. And I never said I didn't support euthenasia. If there was an option, I'd support giving her a lethal injection but the law says you can't do that, so I support taking the tube out.
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    Quote[/b] ]As for your point when someone you loves dies you know it, the instant their "soul" seperates from their body.
    I've never actually seen a human die (and don't want to!) but I think that what you're seeing is them dying and nothing else. Even if I believed in souls (i'm kind of agnostic in that too), I don't think you could see the soul leaving. That's just the body dying you see.
    ... I don't want to hijack ANOTHER thread so if you want to know why I believe what I believe about souls, make another thread or PM me. (although I guess this does have to do with terri... so it's not really hijacking)
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    Quote[/b] ]more importantly, legally sanctioning suicide (which is what euthenasia is) quite simply puts foot firmly on a slipperly slope where they sanctity of life becomes lessened.
    in the example you gave about a terminally ill patient of cancer, I would support euthenasia IF they want to (of course!). The patient would probably spend it's remaining days suffering and hoping that they will find a cure AND sell it in time is definately not worth the suffering. I don't think the sanctity of life is lessened. it's ... darn it what's the antonym? oy... made greater. There is no reason for just being alive. What's the point of being a vegetable? that's not life. life is more than that. Death without suffering is better than a short, sad life full of suffering.
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