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    Is the judge aware that these dangerous plants are being sold at Lowes, Home Depot, and local nurseries? Will the police be knocking on their doors too?

    Where did you get the snakes? Aren't they sold at any old pet store?

    Sorry about the outcome... I guess we were naive to think the court could see through empty rhetoric. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]

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    It's actually a good idea to not have the plaintiffs pay the defendants legal fees if their lawsuits fail. Otherwise, no citizens would ever be able to take the risk of suing giant abusive companies because they could never afford to lose. And as we all now know, you can lose just about any case.

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    Can you give us some specifics on where this case was tried and what the case number is. Contact the ICPS, they may be able to offer some legal advice.

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    Well...

    You should have use the older but generally more precice term of 'insectivorous' as opposed to carnivorus, Since the plant are generaly desinged to trap insects, they do not cope well long-term with animal (vertebrate) proteins, wich can cause burning of the leaf due to the improper diet (of some). Because of the fact the some plants burn at all from meat, this substantial evedence in itself that it is not adapted to the capture of large creatures. The bait usually is nectar, wich attracts insects seeking it.

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    Quote[/b] ]They are nondescimante killers that will kill and consume anything that is unlucky enough to find itself within it's deadly graps. He then showed where he had found reports of monkeys huge rats, birds have been found in these plants
    Also attest tle likelyhood of it being a danger. Dogs and cats are far mor mobile and are a clear and present danger for any one of the animals their worried about, and if cp's fall under this catigory, so do they , for it is obvious that 'They are nondescimante killers that will kill and consume anything that is unlucky enough to find itself within it's deadly graps' including other peoples pets. Using the reasons and justifications given, dogs and cats are also banned under the ordinance, and thus the ownership of them are aslo illigal in the city. Dogs Kill many people each year, and cat kill millions of small animals every week. Cp's kill dozens of small insects every week.

    As for the back-fanged snake thng, if the ordinace make no povesitions for nonleathal venom, there is a conflict, however stupid and unreasonable it might be, it is considerd enough justificaton for the removal of animals.

    I would argue that the law is too broad and if they make exempts for more dangerous animals sutch as dogs and cats, they are being hipocritical, and that the prosicutar greatly exagerates, doing a quick serch for the most sensational information he could find, not noting the sansationalaly exeptional curcumstances that lead to these animals capture; he was being shortsighted and biased. You migt want to mention that these cases are often cited as the capacity of cp's because some of us cpr's like to think its remotely plausible that their plants COULD in fact catch these animals, while reality is that the circumstances under witch that migt occur are exeptional, akin to a freak accident- kind of like dunking a basketball and having the wall to witch it is mounted collapse on top of you.
    that makes no logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (LauraZ5 @ Mar. 30 2005,5:31)]No Zongyi, we Americans have a b*stardized form of British Law. It works well for us overall but the result of which is that there exist very few situations in which the plaintiff has to "pay up" if the cookie crumbles unfavorably...the ones with which I have any familiarity are mostly real estate. Illinois has a few remedies available (counter for frivolous) however he is in a southern state and these issues would best be discussed with a practicing attorney in his state. It has been my experience most lawyers will spend some time with you without the clock running to get a feel for what is going on. It truly doesn't hurt to flip through the yellow pages and look for an attorney who advertises that an initial consultation is free.
    Hehe, but Canada is also a decendent from Britan, so the laws should be fairly simular [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] .

    Ozzy, do you mind if I post a link on CPUK? I don't think some of the members know of the situation here yet. Zongyi
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    Now please don't post a link until I figure out what I'm going to do. I don't really know very many people there and I don't feel like hearing what people think that don't even know me right now. I'm trying to do things just to keep my mind off of this situation for awhile.

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    Ozzy, take everything you took to Court and go to your local newspaper NOW! this is one human interest story they are going to love. it sounds to me like the judge and prosicuter were a lil to buddy buddy and you got railroaded. i am sorry for your plants and you are probably right in that there is nothing you can really do for them even if you win an appeal but take this nice guys on. there are more than enough reporters around that love tackling this kind of stuff. get this idiocity to stop. im not sure where you are in Ohio but if yah let me know what major paper is near by ill talk to the guys i know in the MNA and see if there are any strings i can pull from over here.

    PS say the word and i will send yah what ever plants i can to replace any you have lost.
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    get "rid" of them and have someone send them back when it's safe.

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