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    if there is a god, it's an it and not a he or she. it would be formless and genderless. i think you'd perceive it how you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]In my opinion, there are a number of red flags indicating that someone has created their God in their own image. Assigning it a gender is one of them.
    So what should we call God. It? I guess it's rather unfortunate that we don't have any aquedate pronouns, but that doesn't meant that anything/one refered to as him or he is masculine or male.

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    Quote[/b] ]As for hell, what better way for olden day churches to gain total control over the general public?
    What better way to gain control over America than to uncover a terrorist plot? What better way to gain control over a blind man than to tell him he's heading for a cliff?

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    Quote[/b] ]There were allegedly references to reincarnation in the bible, but Constantine & Co. had them removed, calling them 'heresy'.
    Let's see the reference info for that one...
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    Many say 'he' and mean 'it'. Many actually mean 'he'.

    The church has a long and well-documented history of treachery and manipulation (what powerful historical organization doesn't?)... it's just strange to me that people don't think it's even remotely possible that that corruption could have made its way into the biblical texts themselves at any point. Because the books are perfect, of course.

    And like I said, there's probably no way to find an objective answer on the reincarnation thing... but here are a few sites that talk about it. Some aren't the greatest but they're what I can find when I get home late from work and just want to go to bed. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
    http://www.allaboutturkey.com/iznik.htm
    http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/reincar/re-imo.htm
    http://www.mandrake-press.com/content....on.html
    http://www.reincarnation.ws/ (links toward the bottom) (no I'm not gnostic)
    http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-pope.htm

    I'm not making this about reincarnation or advocating that people believe in it or anything like that. It's just an example. I'm mainly just unclear on how the bible can be seen as untainted when its caretakers have proven themselves to be quite corrupt quite often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (aprilh @ Mar. 24 2005,10:28)]Jimscott...the hand, the 13 cats...that was me, LOL! April

    Laura doesn't have any guitars and lives a diminished life because of that. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
    Oh, I know that! I was being mildly cryptic about checking out the picture topic, which of course, was your webpage. I was surprised to see Laura's grow list there. Man, I think you have more cats than the Aunt B. actress from the Andy Griffith Show! the most we ever had was 3, not counting a half dozen kittens. Got any Maine Coon?

    You know what they say: "Every guitar player has his/her pic!" And what music do you like playing?

    ): You're not going to believe this but the "church" as you described it, with all its abuses, wasn't characterized by people of faith; that is, real Christians. What you have is christian in name only (nominal christians) Do "real" Christians sin? Yes! The difference is that they have real faith and God shows them their sin. A true Christian hates their own sin and will acknowledge it as well seek forgiveness as well as turn away from it. Nominal christians wouldn't understand all that and wouldn't seek to be in right relationship with God. Therefore, those abuses you alluded to, went unchecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]And like I said, there's probably no way to find an objective answer on the reincarnation thing... but here are a few sites that talk about it.
    That goes for a whole lot of misinformation. There's also plenty of sites on how "Stairway to Heaven" played backwards contains a lot of Satanic messages.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]The church has a long and well-documented history of treachery and manipulation (what powerful historical organization doesn't?)... it's just strange to me that people don't think it's even remotely possible that that corruption could have made its way into the biblical texts themselves at any point. Because the books are perfect, of course.
    And yet, even after all that corruption, the texts we have today are nearly exactly what has been found on the ancient manuscripts.
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    There has ALWAYS been a faithful remnant throughout history. God ALWAYS had those who would keep their faith in Him, in spite of corruption, apostacy, watering down, adding to...

    The big picture is this: No matter what translational differences you may encounter, no matter what insignificant mistakes you may find or think you find, the overall message is 100 % consistent: God has always wanted us to love Him and love people. He always wanted us to put our faith/ trust/ confidence in Him. He has always told us what he expects of us, along with the consequences of choosing not to do so.

    Don't get hung up on small details or apparent contradictions. You get a different slant because of a different audience, for a different purpose, on the same subject. Put the whole Bible together, with all sides accounted for. You will see the consistency.

    Scribes, though not perfect, were incredibly careful in transcribing languages. There are Hebrew letters that look similar enough to have been confused, with different meanings. But when you look at the context of the manuscript, you can figure out what was intended.

    Someimes translating from one language to another is problematic, partially because there may be more than one meaning for a word, or that one language doesn't have word to adequately describe the meaning being conveyed. Something as important as trying to convey truth is not taken lightly. It has been researched and studied more than any other document- more than Shakespeare, and nobody seems to want to rip Shakespeare to shreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Finch @ Mar. 24 2005,2:19)]I beleive that feeling of conectivity, tghet feeling of anothr suprememe being through wich all things are tied to (AKA god and the feelings people say they get from 'being in his precence') Is all in the person's head. It isnt just god but whatever feeing that gives you that specal charge. Ypu religous people know what im taling about.

    I iave seen that there is some evedence to suggest that it is a relese of chemicals from the brain that gives that feeling, and that depending on ur beleife, this chemical charge can be obtained in any number of ways. This is also affected by genetics, some having a stronger or weaker relese of these chemicals depending on the genes you gave inhereded, as well as your upbringing.

    Thats what i beleive, unless evidence can prove/disprove. i admit while it it a tantlizing finding, i have yet to see the same results dupliated in others. Bening reletevly recent, i expect to see more information on this subject soon.
    Yup, I'm a hardcore atheist, and I get those feelings when I'm studying physics.
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