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    she made an unjust, stupid rule without any reason (I asked her why and the only thing she could say was something about dicipline) I didn't do anything bad nor anything that would justify her punishing me, and I have good reasons why I don't go earlier. (which I told her... and at first she didn't listen but later she did)
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    I don't want to be offensive and I am the parent I am so...........Hope it don't bite ya in butt later.

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    how could it?
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    Even IF it was stupid and unfair, so is life at times and it's better to be accustomed to it than not. It's really hard when you have to listen to stupid people and do as they tell you even when it is stupid and useless, if you never had to before. Trust me on this.

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    I don't bend down to anything unless it's either not worth it or impossible to change. This was neither, as me being able to be here until 11PM proves.
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    Sounds to me like there is no trust in your house hold. My parents made me do a lot of things when I was a kid that I didn't like, and I failed to do many of them behind their back. When I asked why, I got the "because I said so" answer more often than not. At one point, I questioned my father and he told me "I have your best interests at heart, I do things to make you a better person, I would never intentionally hurt you, so just trust that there is a lesson in it somewhere and do what I say." best friggin answer I ever got, and you know what? I never asked again, I did what my dad said, from only getting AN HOUR of TV a week to him sitting me down and making me build an 8086 computer with him, learning how to replace an alternator, going to bed when I am told... don't regreat a bit of it.

    See, the way I see it, is maybe the 10PM bed time wasn't about you at all, maybe your mom and dad wanted a little time to themselves, time they didn't want to have to explain to you. Perhaps THEY needed you to go to bed and cut them some slack and you didn't, and rather than push it, they let it go. Your parents are the example for authority in your life, and someday, your going to get into the world and be wholly unprepared. You don't get to ask your boss "Why do I have to do a TPS report" all the time, you ask your seargent why you have to take a hill, he'll pop you upside the head. Doign things you don't want to do or because you think they are stupid, builds discipline. But I don't expect you to understand it, and we really are only getting one side of the story so I guess it's pointless to try and make a point.

    I hope FlytrapGurl takes advantage of this time to raise her grades and gets back on soon.

    As to those questions: The priniciple of my school that was in charge of my class was a drunkard and did many unethical things. She was found out about two years after I graduated and fired. there was talk of ciminal and civil action being taken against her, but I don't know if anything ever came of that. So that is why my parents (or me for that matter) didn't know.

    Also, I would say No, I don't have Adult ADD, but I think My wife, several of my friends, and Phil and a few other mods would say yes I do.
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    Alpha,
    Again I'm not trying to be a butthole BUT.........
    You WILL bend down to whatever you're told when you are on your own or you will fail, unless you start a business of your own and it succeeds from day 1. Thats just life man, I understand what you're saying but later on at about 18-20 yrs old it'll click. F***, I gotta do all this stuff and it don't matter what I like or feel. Nobody cares if it's unfair.

    As far as the respect issue goes: I am curious; You seem very scientifically oriented. Would you agree that respect is a cultural lesson or an instinct or law of somekind or what?
    Scientifically speaking respect isn't earned until you prove that you can hold your own here on earth, which inevitably is in adulthood. Humans are the things that change this "rule". What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]When I asked why, I got the "because I said so" answer more often than not. At one point, I questioned my father and he told me "I have your best interests at heart, I do things to make you a better person, I would never intentionally hurt you, so just trust that there is a lesson in it somewhere and do what I say."
    no, there is plenty of trust. trust that I will not get stupid answers from my mom, and trust that I will do what they tell me when it is justified. There is also trust that I will not question them if they have a good motive.
    my parents are human too, and they realize it. Just because they THINK they're doing something that's good for me doesn't mean that they are, and they trust me to take part in the decision making.
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    Quote[/b] ]See, the way I see it, is maybe the 10PM bed time wasn't about you at all, maybe your mom and dad wanted a little time to themselves, time they didn't want to have to explain to you
    (BEEEEEEEEEPPP!!!!) please... NEVER do that again. remember you're talking to a teen here!

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Perhaps THEY needed you to go to bed and cut them some slack and you didn't, and rather than push it, they let it go
    if they don't allow me to question them then I have no respect for them.
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    Quote[/b] ] You don't get to ask your boss "Why do I have to do a TPS report" all the time, you ask your seargent why you have to take a hill, he'll pop you upside the head
    your boss and your parents are two TOTALLY different things. You can't compare the two. I know there is a difference and I react to it accordingly.
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]As far as the respect issue goes: I am curious; You seem very scientifically oriented. Would you agree that respect is a cultural lesson or an instinct or law of somekind or what?
    I think it's a kind of instinct. Respect in the sense of lack of disrespect-social animals need respect in order to be social.
    respect in the deeper meaning- I think it's just a kind of blend of trust and liking someone. you also have to have it in social animals to keep the group together.
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]You WILL bend down to whatever you're told when you are on your own or you will fail, unless you start a business of your own and it succeeds from day 1. Thats just life man, I understand what you're saying but later on at about 18-20 yrs old it'll click. F***, I gotta do all this stuff and it don't matter what I like or feel. Nobody cares if it's unfair.
    I don't know why you think I'm so static/stupid but I'm not. I know sometimes you have to do things without asking (like in school) but I trust my parents enough that I know they will answer me truthfully, and that they'll admit when they are wrong.
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