You treat me, Tanya and all the other kids on here like we are clueless idiots who know nothing about life and how important it is to do at school.[b said:Quote[/b] (superimposedhope @ April 10 2005,1:16)]I still have to disagree with Alpha.
I will reinterate my statement from page whatever. A child is no-one to demand ANYTHING from me. Not explanations, reasons, nothing. Obviously telling you what you did wrong is needed for a child to learn, but if I say don't do blah, blah, blah......then I expect you to listen because I said so. It does not breed mindless children, it breeds children who understand that you do not expect anything of superiors. As I said before NOBODY is goin to explain them selves because you "feel" it is your right to know. Not your boss, not a stranger, not a cop, NO-ONE! One day when you are the superior then you may make decisions that are not up to others to argue or demand explanations of. It is the way it is. Whether or not the new generation all feel this way makes no difference, the superiors will always make decisions and demand that you obey and do it in a timely and efficient manner. It is all a life lesson from day one about what your place in the world is.
Joe
We're not the ones who can't tell the difference between parenting and jobs. Apparently it's you (no, not you dino).[b said:Quote[/b] ]I KNOW there are times when I HAVE to take orders, but most of those times come at work.
Wow, it's the "conform or die" school of parenting and work ethic! I don't now and never, ever did need anyone to decide what MY "place" in the world is. My place in the world is exactly what *I* want it to be. It's not up to my parents, siblings, friends. Period.[b said:Quote[/b] (superimposedhope @ April 10 2005,1:16)]I still have to disagree with Alpha.
I will reinterate my statement from page whatever. A child is no-one to demand ANYTHING from me. Not explanations, reasons, nothing. Obviously telling you what you did wrong is needed for a child to learn, but if I say don't do blah, blah, blah......then I expect you to listen because I said so. It does not breed mindless children, it breeds children who understand that you do not expect anything of superiors. As I said before NOBODY is goin to explain them selves because you "feel" it is your right to know. Not your boss, not a stranger, not a cop, NO-ONE! One day when you are the superior then you may make decisions that are not up to others to argue or demand explanations of. It is the way it is. Whether or not the new generation all feel this way makes no difference, the superiors will always make decisions and demand that you obey and do it in a timely and efficient manner. It is all a life lesson from day one about what your place in the world is.
Joe
It's not about enforcing things on parents, cuz if it was mine would've pulled the authority card on me a long time ago... It's about asking their reasons when they punish you or give you an order. It's not in the human condition to follow all orders from their superiors around blindly, without ever knowing why... that's slavery. Let me tell you something, I have overprotective parents, my mom is a fan of old school etiquette and behavior, and they have taught me how to respect not only my superiors but eveyone else around me... but they have also taught me that I too deserve respect from others, and to me that means people should respect my choices and opinions without imposing theirs on me.[b said:Quote[/b] ]I don't respect a kid who enforces anything upon a parent
I respect my parents because that's what they taught me to do, and even more for the way they brought me up... they don't need to demand my respect, they earned it.[b said:Quote[/b] ]I demand respect from my children and they do respect me and that is the way it will be from me.
about that first sentence... parents shouldnt always tell thier kids why they tell them to do something. if they say take out the trash ther isnt a reason to ask "why" bc it is abvious that the trash needs tooken out. or other things like that like washing the dishes etc[b said:Quote[/b] (TheAlphaWolf @ April 09 2005,7:34)]Parents SHOULD always tell their kids why they tell them to do something. They should be honest too. There is nothing I hate more than lies (white lies are lies too...). They should always tell us why because otherwise we don't learn from our mistakes. We just do things to avoid punishment and the moment that you take away that punishment (since they don't know WHY they're not supposed to do what they're doing or why they're punishing them) they just turn around and do whatever it is they were doing. If my mom tells me why, I won't do it (if it's a good reason... getting dicipline just for the sake of dicipline is retarded). If she doesn't tell me why, I'll keep doing it whenever I can because I don't understand why i'm not supposed to do it.
Parents just demanding blind trust and mute kids who can't think for themselves just create ignorant kids.
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that say teens who used to be very diciplined and stuff turn out bad? for example I took construction tech. one year. The guys who smoked and were all the "bad crowd" said (I don't know how but the subject of how they were diciplined came up ) that when they were little their parents were like those that demanded blind followers.
now... most of the time I am well behaved and stuff, but if I'm going to be punished I deserve to know why.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]I think parents should never tell their kids to *F* off. God, that's horrid. And it's certainly not providing any kind of role model for "proper, lady-like" behaviour, either.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]The only thing I can say is...try to fly below the radar, if you're not already. But it might be tough, they sound kind of aggro. Girl, brand a fake smile on your face every time you're near them.