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Thread: When does life truly begin?

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    Well? Where does everyone stand in regards to (wdesirt) abortion? I think that life only truly begins when the new organism is self sufficient enough to breathe on it's own. This would make life truly begin at birth, there for dispelling the theory that abortion is murder.

    What is everyone else's thoughts to this?
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    None of my business. I feel that whatever a person does to their own body, is their business, not mine. This murder stuff is just more religious right B.S. They evidently don't think God is in charge. Why else would they feel the need to kill the Doctors who feel they are helping the ladies who feel it necessary for them. If God wanted them dead, they'd BE dead, without any help from any human.
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    my scientific side says life began once, billions of years ago.... blah blah you know the story.
    I really can't answer what you're asking since that would require me to believe in souls.... I guess...
    but anyway I think abortion should be legal up until the time when the fetus begins to think and feel. fetuses before they can think and feel are in the same level as plants.
    I don't agree with the breathing thing because breathing is really not a determining step for me... if it try to breathe in the womb, it would die. It's just breathing outside the womb because it has to.
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    I personly feel that abortion is wrong. I don't think I could ever abort a child that is mine. Even though I feel that abortion is wrong I fully support the right to have one. Like bug said it's none of my business what somebody else does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]I feel that whatever a person does to their own body, is their business, not mine. This murder stuff is just more religious right B.S.
    ironically, I have to disagree. lol.
    I don't consider babies as part of their mothers. They're separate organisms. I do think that killing a baby that is about to be born is murder.

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    I was once put in the position of wanting a child that the mother did not want. She went through with the abortion against my will.

    My personal belief: A fetus, at any stage, is a GENETICALLY independent organism, it has it's own identity through that DNA, and is therefore a seperate life. It's DNA says it's human, and it should therefore be granted all the rights of a human child.

    And not everyone on the religious right is a bomb toting doctor killer.
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    what does "wdesirt" mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (RamPuppy @ April 11 2005,10:21)]I was once put in the position of wanting a child that the mother did not want. She went through with the abortion against my will.

    My personal belief: A fetus, at any stage, is a GENETICALLY independent organism, it has it's own identity through that DNA, and is therefore a seperate life. It's DNA says it's human, and it should therefore be granted all the rights of a human child.

    And not everyone on the religious right is a bomb toting doctor killer.
    You're right it's genetically independant, but it's not "alive" yet. your sperm is genetically independant too. I think something is alive when and if you can take it out of the womb and it can live without special aid.
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