Well lets think about this logically. In the first statement it was said the Ice caps are melting and this will cause global cooling. Now what could be causing the melting? Oh Duh! Global Warming. If anyone bothers to read the many many memos about global warming on this forum they would know global cooling (hence an Ice age) is the effect. No not the permentant effect but still the most dominant effect. I think people like Alpha are obsessed with the Idea that at least 1/3 of all species will become exstinct. This is true. The others (like Scotty) are obsessed with the idea that effects of humans living can be denied. You know if you went out and killed a baby of and animal (including humans) you would increase the amount of oxygen in the air, limit the gene pool, probibly decrese the rate of cancer or heart diesease and definatly conserve resources. These are the current facts as they stand and cannot be denied.