All good points, and yes the trader is part of this forum, but the trade did not orriginatre here. Things are being worked on as we speak to correct the issue. The person in question did make mention the plants were seedlings, but I didnt realize seedlings would be sent that small. Given the size of the full grown plant and what I am used to dealing with orchids. I have a seedling orchid right now that dwarfs what was sent to me. Granted they are different plants. I just didnt think plants that small would be sent. Especialy for flowering sized Chids. I sent pictures of my plants to the person. I guess I should have asked for pictures in return and will from now on with trades. I know myself I couldnt send plants of that size for the plants I sent and not feel bad. I guess that just me. I do trust that things are being taken care of so hopefully this person will learn their lesson and it will not happen again. Especial seeing the extent of indeviduals involved now. If not then andrew knows who the person is and I know the mods will rectofy the situation. Thanks everyone.