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    Quote[/b] ]i'm 100% for medical and recreational legalization.
    it's just a plant. jeez.

    while we are at it, i think all natural drugs should be legalized such as opium and LSD.

    if people get messed up on anything then that's their problem AFAIK. Marijuana is safer than alcohol.

    just my opinions.
    isnt coccane from a plant too? that makes it OK? just because its from a plant doesnt make it safer than some man-made drugs. im not talking about marijuana in particular, but there are worse plant- based drugs. I have no opinion on medicinal marijuana, but if they get messed up its nott just their problem, because often many people try to drive when high. Leagalizing marijuana but prohibiting people from driving while affected would not stop them from doing it, just look at drunk driving. Indeed, if it was legal, drugged-driving instances might increse. Im talking about if they legalized it totally as some have suggested they should do.
    that makes no logic

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    Quote[/b] (Finch @ June 07 2005,2:21)]OK
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]i'm 100% for medical and recreational legalization.
    it's just a plant. jeez.

    while we are at it, i think all natural drugs should be legalized such as opium and LSD.

    if people get messed up on anything then that's their problem AFAIK. Marijuana is safer than alcohol.

    just my opinions.
    isnt coccane from a plant too? that makes it OK? just because its from a plant doesnt make it safer than some man-made drugs. im not talking about marijuana in particular, but there are worse plant- based drugs. I have no opinion on medicinal marijuana, but if they get messed up its nott just their problem, because often many people try to drive when high. Leagalizing marijuana but prohibiting people from driving while affected would not stop them from doing it, just look at drunk driving. Indeed, if it was legal, drugged-driving instances might increse. Im talking about if they legalized it totally as some have suggested they should do.
    yes. the coco plant should be legal aswell as mushrooms and peyote. it's original use was the natives would chew the leaves to prevent/cure high-altitude sickness.

    mushrooms should be legal aswell.

    there are alot of legal alternatives to illegal drugs. did you know you can eat the bishop's cap cactus aswell as the peruvian torch and some other one? all three contain pretty good amounts of mescalin and you can buy bishop's cap at homedepot or walmart.

    want to hallucinate? try Salvia divinorum. totally safe. or try coleus or morning glory like the cultivar "flying saucers". even nutmeg can make you hallucinate.

    want to mellow out? try hybiscus (sp?) or certain passiflora species.


    no one should use legal plants as recreational drugs, but they will and there are alot of relatively safe ones. i'm not promoting drug use but people should know about alternatives.



    everyone should check out erowid.com. it tells everything you'd ever want to know about any drug and has user reports, the good the bad and the ugly.

    MDMA used to be used in therapy between couples, but people started abusing it.

    in a country where people get VIAGRA with MEDICARE!, i should be able to smoke a joint once in awhile, say on the weekends, if i wanted to. if people research and are responsible then nothing bad will happen with anything.

    one drug no one should every think about doing ever is Crystal Methamphetamine. the devil smokes that drug.

    "all the grass is dead and all the gold is brown and what once was the emerald city is now a crystal town"-Return to Oz

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    btw, most people wouldn't feel like driving when they are high on pot. they'd rather sit and eat cheesy poofs on the couch and watch tv and that's fine.

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    on a related note, being that this is falling under states rights and such, how many other states are disobeying parts of the Patriot act? i know our governor here in Montana has been telling state agencys to not comply with anything to do with the Patriot Act if it clearly violates the US Constitution(right to privacy ect)

    states rights are finally coming back into focus, good thing to, Big Brother is getting way to big IMHO
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    yeh. How much rights should states have?


    Back at the begginig of our country each state had the right to declare war independantly and have its own currency. But the question today is how far can states go from the set national standard.
    that makes no logic

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    Hehehe Finch, most people want to expand states rights when they approve of the idea a state supports, and narrow them when they disapprove.

    Historically, people wanted states rights to maintain patriarchical and white-supremacist societies. But then topics like assisted suicide, medical marijuana and the like have come up, and the opinions on state's rights flip-flopped faster than a pancake at IHOP. It's rather comical to watch, and I have to admit I'm guilty as well.

    However, philosophically, I support states rights except insofar as they contradict the US Constution and its guaranteed rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Capslock @ June 07 2005,3:50)]But then topics like assisted suicide, medical marijuana and the like have come up, and the opinions on state's rights flip-flopped faster than a pancake at IHOP.
    LOL! true, very true. i guess i would rather see the states have the say in areas like medical marijuana, assisted suicide, gay marrages ect, basically i feel it will do more good in the long run. its issues like these that tend to tear appart the nation. its more likely the voice of the ppl will be heard during the elections in that state rather than our federal Senate and House doing the "will of the ppl". leave it up to the ppl of the individual state to decide. the Federal government should be basically for protecting the saftey of the country as a whole from other nations, and to step into states rights and the rights of individuals when only absolutly nessisary. i guess i view less government as a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Hehehe Finch, most people want to expand states rights when they approve of the idea a state supports, and narrow them when they disapprove.
    Funny, thats the EXACT thing I was just going to say!

    But if we started to divide up by state with every conterversial topic that came our way, eventually we would be the 'Divided States of Amarica', as opposed to the United States of America, and as we well know divisions breed internal conflict, and conceivibly the mojority states will try and get the minority states under their influence. But ivenn if that occured, it would be the majority of the country deciding, so in a way it is still the will of the people, even if individual states got knocked in the process. Im not Sayin that i like or approve such tactics, but im just trying to think of the results. Anyway if such thinmgs like the above scenario occured, eventually we might end up right back where we started.
    that makes no logic

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