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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]If one radical religion is out of hand, then they cannot come here--PERIOD!!!!
    well, it's not technically "one radical religion", it's one radical group of people... but you could consider it another religion since they don't follow true islam.
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    Quote[/b] ] will NEVER vote "common" parties again.
    isn't that just as bad as sticking to only one party? You're not really voting for who you agree with, you're just voting for someone else so you won't vote for those two parties.
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    "If one radical religion is out of hand, then they cannot come here--PERIOD!!!!"

    If this also applies to radical Christians, I agree. Fair is fair.

    "Iraq's borders are a sieve...liberals use that arguement when they talk about how many new terrorists are pouring into Iraq..the borders arent secure when we ARE there.. you assume they were secure BEFORE we got there?!"

    You're assuming, of course, that we're the only country that can secure borders.

    "can you honestly believe the weapons were NOT moved out??
    please...get a clue. the WMD's were there..they still are...somewhere."

    No...they were destroyed by weapons inspectors in the early to mid-nineties. Look it up! You guys just canNOT get over the fact that you were lied to, you chose to ignore the facts and believe the lies, and you are wrong. There is absolutely NO evidence that Saddam moved his WMD to other countries. Iraq has been under satellite scrutiny since the first Gulf War, both the low-earth orbit(LEO) and geo-synchronous(GSO) types. PLUS..we had no fly zones over the north and south of Iraq. Patrolled 24-7 by the US Air Force and US Navy. Any movements of such a massive amount of stuff would have shown up on film, or would have been seen by our pilots. And it didn't. The evidence is just not there. Don't you think your heroes would have said something, if they had evidence? There were weapons inspectors on the ground for eight months before the start of this war. They had full and total access to all sites...and they found NOTHING.

    If Saddam did have WMD...don't you think he would have used them on our troops when we invaded? Seems like a no-brainer to me.

    When Saddam was in power..the borders were very tight. Sure..people crossed over, but not many. Saddam had them hunted down and umm..disposed of. Saddam absolutely did not want radical Islamists in his country. He did import Arabs. He liked to kick all the Kurds out of their towns, gas them en masse, and import Arabs to take over their businesses, jobs, and houses. Why did Saddam do this? The Kurds wanted/want independence from Iraq, that's why. They would usurp his power and cause him all sorts of trouble.

    The point is...Iraq's borders were much tighter before we invaded. Our invasion has caused complete chaos. As far as I can tell..the Iraqi people are NOT better off for our occupation.

    And BTW...10 car bombs went off simultaneously in Baghdad today. Al Qaeda claimed responsibility. Over 20 killed, and more than 100 wounded. So much for the insurgency being "in it's last throes," to quote **** Cheney. The Al Qaeda not so nice guys have found the perfect way to bring the country into a civil war of our making.
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    Youve ignored me twice now April, what about all the good the army has done for the people? It has improved their standards of living. They have built more schools and more Iraqis are getting an education. Just look at one of Lauras previous posts to see what all the good things the army has done.
    If you ask me, it was worth it invading because it has helped the people there so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]You're assuming, of course, that we're the only country that can secure borders.
    Actually we can't even do that. Just look at the border with Mexico.
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    and look how many innocents were killed by our american troops needlessly!

    look at how many DON"T WANT TO BE THERE!

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    Well, I was going to go and tape my fingers together and not post.

    I support the war on terrorism but had sincerely hoped we would have received more support from other nations, that it would have been better funded, and that considerably more troops would have been sent over there. Heck, we've got all these reservists collecting a monthly pay check... send them all over and let's make a statement while improving the quality of life for so many. Probably not as simple as that but at least it was in my mind.

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    "Youve ignored me twice now April, what about all the good the army has done for the people? It has improved their standards of living. They have built more schools and more Iraqis are getting an education. Just look at one of Lauras previous posts to see what all the good things the army has done.
    If you ask me, it was worth it invading because it has helped the people there so much. "

    Please tell me exactly HOW our invasion helped the Iraqi people. How has their standard of living been improved?

    They are subject, at any time, to being blown up by insurgents, a problem they didn't have before.

    Their electricity and water is on an average of about 5 hours a day, whereas before, it was on 24/7.

    There is no garbage collection. Very little sewage treatment.

    They wait in long lines for gasoline because the oil pipelines are being blown up by insurgents faster than they can be repaired from the last attack by insurgents. This was not a problem before.

    They wait in long lines for meagre food. They didn't before.

    But at least they can go to school?

    I'll believe what actual Iraqis say before I believe any statistics that come out of the White House. 49% of Iraqi children can go to school because the other 51% are dead. Duh. Worthless.

    I guarantee if conscription with NO exceptions was re-instated in the US, this exercise in futility would be over in about 2 weeks. The first people I'd send would be the Bush twins for front line duty.

    The army/navy/marines are trying their hardest to do good things. They are being frustrated in their efforts by the administration. Unfortunately, because we went in there half-assed and with not enough troops...they can't do as much as they would like to do. Any general who had the temerity to suggest that we needed to send in more troops was summarily fired by the White House. This is not the troop's fault, obviously. They are doing the best they can with what they got. And the administration gave them short shrift, too. Not enough armor, food, support, hazardous duty pay, etc.

    The arrow of blame for this horrible, bloody mess points straight to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, and it's current resident, IMO.

    And I repeat..I'd bet good money you didn't give one diddly about the Iraqi people 3 years ago. Your belated concern about them is suspect. You didn't care about them until you were told to.
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