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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (aprilh @ July 16 2005,7:08)]Please tell me exactly HOW our invasion helped the Iraqi people. How has their standard of living been improved?
    Hello... they where liberated. Does that not count for crap?
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    yeah it does but their standard of living has gone DOWN.

    i'd rather not be liberated and have a high(er) standard of living than have liberty and live in a cesspool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]amen sister! let me hear ya!
    lol! you're one crazy guy clint
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    Laura, I'm pretty sure your email was a newspaper column by a European MEP we have called Robert Kilroy Silk. I've deleted the part which caused uproar over here - the ill informed remarks about Islamic countries.
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    Ah, that's ok Alexis. You took action based on your experience with the e-mail. Good for you to remove that which might be deemed offensive. I wouldn't have even noticed if you hadn't mentioned anything. I literally cut and pasted it from an e-mail that I received from a girlfriend earlier today. Hope all is as well as can be expected by you given what happened in London. You folk are pretty resilient like us over here I have come to learn.

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    Reading this has made me sit and think a little, but I keep coming back to the same conclusion. We are doing the right thing!!!! I have yet heard anyone mention that Saddam was funneling money from the oil for food program into his escilating military budget. I can't remember who said it, but someone said Saddam's WMD were all destroyed?? Bull Hocky. He let them destroy some, but not all. There was reports of a convoy leaveing Iraq prior to the war, but nothing was done about it. Also, think of how much desert is out there and how easy it would have been to build an underground facility covered by sand. Personaly I believe the weapons were shipped to Saudi Arabia. Heck he knew we were coming. Why face the full wrath of the US when we find WMDs when you can try to make us lok like fools for not finding what we claimed were there. ALSO, there may have been inspectors in Iraq prior to the war, BUT they did not have full and unrestricked access to all the WMD sites. They were told where they could and could not go. A clear violation to the UN sactions placed on him. The UN was just not willing to enforce it so we did it ourselves.

    Bugweed you keep saying why do we have to be the worlds cops? We do because we are a superpower. With that power comes responsabilities. You can't expect to ignore a problem and it go away. If you want it to not get to you you have to stop it at its source. Look at WWII as an example we tried to stay out of that, but the fight came to us. A superpower cannot sit back idle while people are out to kill every hint of freedoms in the world.

    I have head people say why havn't we gone to North Korea or Saudi? I believe its coming. I hate to say it, but I think those two are in the future. Saddam has just proven himself cabable of using WMD that he has possessed. So far the other two countries have not, but best believe they both possess them.

    I for one though we should have taken Saddam out the first war. Heck we had delta force on his back door, but Bush SR didn't give the word to take him out. That would have caused a big comotion we were not prepared for at the time, but I still think we should have done it.

    Things are getting better over in Iraq. Their standard of living is going up they have access to medicin and things they didnt under Saddam. He is no there to hord them from his people. True water and things may be disrupted, but thats the militants causing those problems after our contractors build the plants and things. Saddam was a threat plain and simple. He was out for more weapons and there is no denying that. We KNOW FOR A FACT about the funneling of oil for food money. So please stock kidding yourselves when you think Saddam a monster WE created was not trying to come back and bite us in the butt.

    Yes we created Saddam. We supported him back in the Iran Iraq war. I think thats when it was. Anyways we did support him and helped him take power of that country. I think it may have been either sit back and do nothing or let the soviets take control or something or other. Hopefully someone knows a little mroe about that than I do. We make decision based on the era they happen and the time frame too. I never said we have never made bad desitions, but I think the one we are making now are justified.

    We lost alot of inocent men women and children during the civil war and the revolutionary war. Its a fact of war. I;m not happy about the fact, but its a fact none the less. There was no diplomatic way around it. Saddam was not going to give up without a fight, but he sure did take off fast when we came for him. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smilie4.gif[/img] Shows you how much of a coward he really was.


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    " I can't remember who said it, but someone said Saddam's WMD were all destroyed?? Bull Hocky. He let them destroy some, but not all. There was reports of a convoy leaveing Iraq prior to the war, but nothing was done about it."

    I said weapons inspectors destroyed tons and tons and tons of it. Probably all of it. Chem and bio weapons have a shelf life. Any left now would be much less effective. We had 13,000 special forces on the ground looking for WMD..plus the regular Army, Navy, Marines and thousands of contractors. If there were WMD, why did the President call off the search? Why didn't Saddam use them on our troops when we first invaded?

    "Things are getting better over in Iraq. Their standard of living is going up they have access to medicin and things they didnt under Saddam. "

    Tell it to the 90 people who were killed in a truck bomb yesterday. Tell it to their families, too, while you're at it. Also share with them how fortunate they are to have really tiny water and electric bills.

    Liberated means you can walk out of your house without fear of getting blown up. THAT'S liberation. What they got over there now is Anarchy.

    "ALSO, there may have been inspectors in Iraq prior to the war, BUT they did not have full and unrestricked access to all the WMD sites."

    According to the chief weapons inspector at the time, Hans Blix, you are wrong. They were able to go anywhere and everywhere...including Saddam's palaces.

    I believe we supported both Iran and Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war.

    I feel really, really bad for our soldiers, and the innocent civilians of Iraq. I wish they HAD discovered WMD..then this would not seem to be such a horrible and tragic waste of lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars.
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    Tisk Tisk My dear April you can not make an omlet without first breaking some eggs. The Iraqi people are liberated. They have the world fastest growing stock market< and its all done on dry erase boards at the moment. So my dear girl don't go around thinking that its all for not. I don't like loosing those solders as much as you don't, but the world is a better place because of it. You and I both know that Saddam has used Chem weapons before. What makes you think that if he was able to buy an ICBM (intercontinental bolistic missile) that ne would not fire them at us. I have no doubt in my mind that he had WMDs AFTER the supossed destruction. Someone said it already if you tell him your coming what in the heck else are you going to do but move them out. Sadam didn't have enough balls to keep them and try an attack yet. The state of his military at the time of invasion was laughable, but bet your tush that he was trying to get bigger abd beter guns. They know he was diverting oil for food money to his military programs. They know he was withholding food and medicine from his people. And Yes I gave a toot long before W said we should. I was in 7th grade when the first Iraq war broke out and thought we should have done more them. So April don't get discoraged. When you have a giant hornets nest in a tree in your back yard and you go to get rid of it sure your going to sture up the hornets in the process, but its nessisary to get rid of the nest. Everything in life can't be all nice and plesant. Sometimes they have a heavy price to pay, but they are a nessisary evil. We have gotten to spoiled and forget the meaning of sacrifice. Have you forgoten all the bloodshed that happened over here to gain our independance? What makes you think its going to be any different over in Iraq to have them gain theirs? They are human like you and I and shouldn't they have the right to be free too? Obviously you don't think to because all your worried about is the money we are spending and the soldier. True those are important things, but you have to look at the big picture. We are a superpower and with that comes responsability. During the time of our civil war the paying field was equal the guns we had were the same as the guns they had roughly anyways. Now the tables are stacked so high against the Iraqies that they could not liberate themselves. Saddam's army was good at keeping lightly armed civilians in check. They just needed a helping hand and were to afraid to ask for it. So in the perfect world we could have solved this without fireing a shot and everything would be peaches and cream, but its not and some eggs had to be broken and hornets stured up.
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