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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (rattler_mt @ July 12 2005,7:09)]There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during January....

    In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January.

    That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq.
    That's a bad comparison.

    39 KIA is just the US (or coalition?) killed... if you want to compare that to the 35 killed in Detroit, you'd have to include:

    (a) All US and Coalition KIA and WIA (DOW)
    (b) All Iraqi and foreign combat-related killed
    All politically-motivated killings in Iraq
    (d) all pure, simple criminal killings (ie, murder/robbery)

    Tally all those, and I'm sure you'll have a number far greater than 39.

    To compare the 39 US/Coalition KIA in January to Detroit, it would be fairer to compare them to the number of policemen killed.
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    I'm sorry, but it's just totally inappropriate to ask public school kids to recite an oath to God every morning, even if you deem it "voluntary." You're asking a grade-schooler to conspicuously opt out in front of all his/her peers. It's wrong on every level.

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    {sneaks in between press runs}------most grade school kids dont really care about that one line anyways so i dont see how it matters. if the kid knows enough to know the difference they can opt out, if not who really cares? i still say its the parents looking for attention and nothing more.

    as to the friendly debate, i consider it nothing else. Bruce(herenorthere) and i are often on complete opposite sides of these types of debates on here. we are still friends and do alot of trading with each other.
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    hmmm everything im finding is in reguards the ACLU lawsuits(another worthless organization right up there with PETA) im wondering if its not one of the lawsuits that didnt go anywhere that i heard in passing on TV that was on a local level in Denver or LA(the two areas i get the networks from on satilite). reguardless if they went anywhere or not, i think the lawsuits themselves are idiotic and are taking money away from educating the kids.

    Scott, second or third post in the tread points out that the number is wrong. and after i sat and thought about it im sure it is. last time did the same comparison i had to use 2 major cities to get similar numbers to the Iraq conflict. so i am 99.999% sure myself that the killed in Iraq number is wrong, however the other numbers look familiar enough to me that im pretty sure they are right.
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    i'm a member of the ACLU...

    got my little card and everything lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]as far as letting the animals that beheaded americans "run free" where did you get that info. i would love to see it.
    that is exactly why people abuse prisoners and want to tourture them. Because they are "animals", they are "subhuman" and all that. Face it, they are HUMAN. other animals wouldn't do what those HUMANS do. (humans are also animals but that's beside the point)
    and I never said they let them run free. That's exactly the point I was making. They DON'T let them run free, so saying that it is somehow wrong or "confusing" that terrorists beheading people (yes, people... americans aren't the only ones that count) is "troubling" and when they abuse prisoners it's a criminal act is just... ... for lack of a better word, wrong.
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    sorry Alpha, guess i didnt make myself clear. i was refering to those who did the beheading, and them ONLY, as animals. and your right i shouldnt have put americans, i should have used ppl instead. the reason i refer to them as animals is that they were beheading the ppl publicly just to behead them. they knew full well threatening, and following throught the beheading of those they kidnapped wasnt going to accomplish anything. it was their excuse. im sorry if you dissagree with me but they are nothing but worthless varmits in my eyes.
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    I know you meant the beheading guys, but they're still human and I still disagree on calling them animals.
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