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    no the reason they dont punch oil wells is cause the oil companies wont deal with the tribal ppl bickering amoungst themselves and not getting anything done. they hold their own elections for the tribal council and nothing new and good ever really happens. so my tax dollars should go to fund their squabbling? screw that ive got two kids that will need money for college and actually give a crap about their future.

    the system doesnt work, the tribes arent interested in anything more than hand outs and wont do anything for themselves unless their is no other option. so do away with the whole reservation system. no more hand outs, make them fend for themselves like everyone else. they have no interest in returning to their old ways, if they did that would be different. but they want to live like every other person in the USA but they for the most part want to do it using hand outs and not pick them selves up and do it themselves. this once proud culture is turning into a bunch of beggers. the tribes have millions apon millions of dollars worth of oil, natural gas, crop land, water rights ect and THEY are asking for handouts? im sorry but there is something totally screwed with that picture. they should be forced to fend for themselves like everyone else.

    and as for their being no decent paying jobs on the rez, ive had different employers darn near fight over me cause im willing to work. its not hard finding a job with a livable wage on the reservation if your willing to work. you have to remember that even though you might not make alot of money the cost of living over here is pretty darn low.
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    zappa, im not taking any of it to heart, dont worry about it. Finch and i are often on opposite sides of the discution. sticks and stones, sticks and stones..........................
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    oh the sanp your neck was just reffering to his temper and i really dont trust dad him not to make a big scene online. that want like ment to be inflamitory it was refering to fathers um... common retorts

    As a atter of fact what ratteler says doent bug me at all and i totally agree the reserve system is screwed up. I am not upset by what ratteler says and he indeed has some good poins.

    Truce?

    (i do you think my behavior was just abit over the top? )
    that makes no logic

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    "If you burn the US Flag, it is freedom of speech but if you desecrate
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    And also...if the Native American community hadn't been subjected to genocide, innumerable broken treaties, blankets purposefully loaded with smallpox virus and being kicked off their land and marched for hundreds miles into nowhere, dropping dead en masse on the way, while an american president (Jackson, I think) said "the only good indian is a dead indian", whilst having their culture completely destroyed, their children stolen from them and sent to "indian schools" to "whiten them up".....

    The wholesale slaughter of the buffalo in the american west was not happenstance...the animals were killed and left to rot. It was designed to starve native americans off the land they had managed for eons so european squatters could take it over. Quite insidious, and clever, no?

    I'd be willing to bet that before the first europeans came here..there were absolutely NO native americans on reservations. Let alone sitting around on reservations drinking, owning casinos, living on the dole and "enjoying" a huge un-employment rate, outdoor plumbing, and grinding poverty. We reaped EXACTLY what we sowed in their case...and I don't mind the one thousandth of one cent of my tax dollar that goes to them. I'd rather have it go to them, than say...for the purchase of another daisy cutter.
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    about the native americans... I really can't talk about it since i don't know about reserves and stuff, but all the slaughter of buffalo and kicking them out and all that... well, I don't think people today should be privileged by what happened to their ancestors. That's not equality. I think there is even a trace of...for lack of a better word... stereotyping or something, because you are judging others according to their background and genes. They should be treated like other humans with no more or less privileges.
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    April, put this in prospective, my ancestors trashed Britain, several times, they arent required to pay for the damage done generations ago. that whole consept is idiotic. heck im the third or fourth generation(depending which side of the family tree you follow) that has lived in this area. my great-great grandparents came here probably atleast full generation after the reservations were created. and we should still be paying for what happened after the civil war? i dont think so. the tribes here hold enough property and mineral rights and water rights and everything else they they should have more than enough resources to keep their heritage going for generations without out side help. if they want to do it great, im all for it, i grew up going to pow wows with my cousins. they were a great and nobel ppl, but they do not need to be subsidized by tax dollars. they have land, they have VALUABLE resources, tur them loose to do as they wish with what they have.
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